The McCain campaign and "changing history" on Iraq
By SilentPatriot Sunday Jul 13, 2008 6:00pm
Yesterday on "Meet the Press," former HP CEO and current McCain surrogate Carly Fiorina lamely attempted to argue that those who claim John McCain always supported President Bush on Iraq are trying to "change history." Unfortunately for Fiorina and the campaign she represents, we have footage of John McCain himself saying the exact opposite on more than one occasion. Here's a little compilation I put together calling out this blatant revisionist history.
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Fiorina: But to say that John McCain was aligned with President Bush on the prosecution of the war in Iraq is to change history.
McCain June 2005:
"I will also submit that my support for President Bush has been active and very impassioned on issues that are important to the American people. And I'm particularly talking about the war on terror, the war in Iraq [...] So I strongly disagree with any assertion that I've been more at odds with the president of the United States than I have been in agreement with him."
McCain, 3/28/08:
“No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have.”
It's pretty funny to watch the McCain campaign walk this tightrope as they attempt to embrace and reject President Bush at the same time. Luckily for us, the video tape tells the true story.
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This is the woman who ran a fairly healthy Hewlett-Packard into the ground? How can you criticise somebody with those kind of credentials? And why would anyone in the MSM challenge her?
this clip is a slam dunk!
awesome editing...
Mickxotic,
That makes her a Reichwinger. She and her ilk ran a pretty healthy country down to the group. Now as Progressives we must restore our country but with Progressive views!
like the way McCain refers to it as the "War On Iraq," sick puppy.
How do these people keep gaining traction when the evidence contrary to what they are saying is so prevalent?
theres always a good reason somebody is a former CEO, generally they are incompetent and or not to be trusted.
Good CEOs stay in a company and make it prosper, not kicked out like yesterdays stale pizza.
Fiorina is a very slick chick. She reminds me buttah when she lies, I mean speaks.
I can't understand how these shills can go on TV and spout this kind of Bullshit. Christ, what I would give to hear some honesty. President Bush and the Repugs have really soiled our political system. And why isn't MSM reporting McCains affair with Cindy? I thought the right-wingers we SO concerned with fidelity!
Shouldn't Fiorina stay focused on her expertise, economics? Uh, never mind.
Carry on.
never fear, 'corporate welfare' is always there for the failed ones of DC and Wall Street.
wow! the surrogates lie just like the candidate.
so staying on message apparently means to
keep changing the message
then denying the message,
then denying changing the message,
*repeat cycle ad infinitum*
That's why they hate blogs
Blogs never forget
Or mothers either.
Another case of republican projection politics and lies. Everybody else want to change history to make McLame and other repugs look bad? No, you freak GOP douche-bags, that would be YOU. You, you and YOU who run from your own flip-flops and try to take the initiative by accusing everybody else of getting it wrong by employing revisionist history.
if you mean.... did i SUPPORT president George Dubya Bush in his march to war, i would like to say that i can't actually say that i didn't not disagree with what the president was saying... that is to say i actually can say that i didn't agree with what the president wasn't saying... what i mean to espouse is that when i said that i can't actually say that i did disagree with what the president meant to say, i on the other hand didn't say what the president said wasnt what the president and i didn't agree upon...
....hey.... is my nose growing ?
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 6:
she actually takes credit for HP actually improving after she left.
go figure.
P.D. @ 8:
that might bring up memories of when he was still married to his first wife and took out the marriage license (for beer barbie) before the divorce was finalized for his old marriage.
theres an old fashioned not used much word beginning with the letter B that describes overlapping marriages...
also a word used to describe somebody that abandons a disabled wife and their small children, to run off with a younger sexier model.
McC*nt is the word I believe
Save the tape.
no fair bashing a Lady with your privileged little facts.
chivalry is as dead as bits of bodies in Andar.
Progress is good @ 3:
Agreed. How's this for a progressive view: The crows that took flight during Reagans tenure are coming home to roost. Business regulations, at their best, are laws for corporations to follow. Remove the laws governing any kind of group, you get lawlessness. We now have corporations behaving in lawless fashion to such a degree that they've bought the right to our governence and as a result, we are in deep doo-doo. The administration of the last eight years is only a symptom of this corporate lawlessness and to countenance a McCain Administration would be to hammer the final nails in our corporate coffin.
whoops did it say 'proof of divorce', maybe thats why McC*nt marrige license to beer barbie was obtained out of state to their residency.
ferrofluid@16, Don't you love how the right critizied Hillary for staying with Bill, and yet are so quiet when it comes to Vitter? I seem to remember he was cheered when he got back to Congress. WTF?
No shame what so ever.
Basically she's trying to rewrite history by accusing others of rewriting history.
That MSM allows them to get away with this crap is outrageous.
P.D. @ 21:
Craig, Vitter, Bog Allen (Florida) Boy Troy (Alabama) IOKIYAR over and over again.
and its not a case of not approving of people having fun, just the fact that they are hypocritical baskets ,
they say one thing in public moralizing on our behaviors and push laws through congress,
then they go and do another in private and act all innocent like when they are exposed as the slugs they are.
.
Carly, why the long face?
She wasn't trustworthy as a CEO and she still isn't trustworthy.
Why is this worthless c*nt being given a forum to speak? She ran a solid company into the ground and danced away with a multi-million dollar golden parachute. Also, she's the same piece of shit who claims McSame would never overturn Roe v. Wade.
Does she even know who she's talking about?
So i guess it's clear that Carnie Fiorina was lying, as she must've known McCain had said those other things. and who cares if she didn't know. she looks like a liar. so therefore she is.
You have to give McCain a break, he has no idea that technology and the internet tubes have his positions on tape or video. maybe his grandson can fill him and his future running mate in on modern technology.
Just remember, McGrampa is still a maverick!
Couldn't they have gotten somebody else with a little more credibility? somebody like Phil Gramm? Uh.... Never mind.
Carry on.
The Truth Hurts @ 26:
all I can say is, they must put some good meds in the sausages and burgers at McC*nts secluded elite barbecues.
all the shills act and say the same lines, 'Stepford journalists' to describe them doesnt do it justice.
Thank you failed CEO lady. Now can we hear again from the dude who helped destroy the housing market?
You'd think the repubs hate big business.
Where Is The Media Gotya Team
This year's election will be grossly one sided if the media continues to under-report John McCain's flipping and a flopping around the campaign trail. I just scene, thanks to C&L, a video showing this candidate making the biggest about face on issues that truly matter.
Which brings me to this question: Why are sites like C&L, Daily Kos, and Media Matters being relegated to a less then serious organization? It's not like they are spreading lies. Their highlights can be check, recheck, and matched against the MSM. All they are trying to do is TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH.
I will not be the first to say, if this were Obama, the media would of plastered this all over the United States for several news cycles. Somehow, shape or form, the MSM will get their horse race. Even if that means turning a blind eye to the truth.
For starters, this story needs to be told correctly, starting with Meet the
BiasPress. I don't need to debate a lie. If the truth has two valid sides to it, lets debate it. However, when the truth is placed on a shelve, assumed to be a left wing talking point, and totally left out of the debate, then "Houston we have a problem."Today, I am so happy to have C&L and other organization like it.
Joseph
tag @ 28:
do you think they want anything to do with McBimbochaser who abandoned their parent and grandmother apart from spending the mailed check every month !
johnnyRocketpants @ 32:
they love business as long as they get to dismember and asset strip them into chapter eleven.
Hey Carly, you're so vain! McTool wanted to hire Kenny Boy for the job, but Uncle Dick won't let Kenny Boy leave Paraguay.
Joseph @ 33:
the MSM will support McC*nt right up until november 4th, all we can do is report and discuss what we see and hear and read,
McNasty will either self destruct himself in public, or be raygunned by his VP, or fade away after losing the election if the Repugs fail to steal enough votes.
either way he is toast.
The only thing that will undo McC*nt with the MSM is is he does something extremely stupid, knowing him he prob will.
Wow, how long do you think we have when brain-dead partsians like this lady are given a platform? We have no money, infrastructure crumbling, healthcare a disaster. And people like this woman are making key decisions? We are doomed my friends. DOOMED!
Olsonist @ 24:
Because she could eat corn off the cob through a picket fence?
She's like a cross between Martin Short and Kathy Griffin, without the charm.
I want that job. I can lie, I'm out of work, and I look good in a yellow pantsuit.
Attila the Neopopulist, no Stomach for Imperial Adventures @ 41:
Not unless you have trashed a Fortune 500 corporation and gotten away with a multimillion golden bullshit parachute.
He didn't name one thing that the American people want. The things he mentioned are either hidden agenda items or propaganda sound bites.
Hey McInsane...fuck you. Crawl back into that jail cell you Manchurian candidate bitch for the CFR.
shes just a hack with notaclue
Mickxotic @ 42:
You can tell she's wearing pants from that clip?!? That's amazing!!
Ugh. My husband and I watched this whole thing. It was sickening.
P.D. @ 38:
Of course we're doomed. You know who runs this place.
I remember a time when I and many others believed John McCain was a reasonably honest man.
I guess being slandered by Bush in the 2000 campaign put an end to that nonsense.
Meet The Press is now "Meet Your Agenda."
An agenda not by you or your peers, but devised by people who are managing your perceptions.
There is NO factual information any longer, just total lunacy.
Sexism at its finest. She got where she is because she is a women.
She ran Lucent, Philips Communication, and Hewitt Packard into the ground by her lunatic/psychotic leadership style.
Next a country.
She should be the next Homeland Security Director because she has illegal wiretapping down pat.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 16:
Kudos for not going low. That was very big of you.
I hope Fiorina and McCrazy keep flapping their gums and flipping their positions. They ought to compare notes sometime and get their stories straight. It's hard for them to keep up with each other's lies after awhile.
It's good to know there is an extensive record of all the lies. Somebody needs to ask McCrazy about the interesting timing in regards to his marriage to Cindy, too. My, wouldn't that be fascinating to see.
You have to screw-up really badly to be fired by HP's board of directors. She had no substance, no talent. Her first order of business was to have HP order a better Gulf Stream jet so she could land in exotic airports (either for her private vacations on small islands or to stash away money in the Cayman islands, one can only presume). Her second order of business was to appear in every HP commercial and try to use the shareholders' money to promote the "Carly" brand. McCain must think that by having her part of his campaign he will get the votes of some of the women disappointed that Clinton lost the nomination. When she was fired she was also blaming the unfairness of "a man's world". McCain is pretty dumb if he thinks she'll help him achieve anything.
Just another in a long, long list(and getting longer) of McShame's flip-floping. For
an up-to-date summary of his policy/position changes, all one has to do is go to the
C&L thread of earlier today(posted at 9:00AM PST -"Wrong Way McCain) wherein
61 documented "flip-flops" have been done by McShame. Is he going to enter the
Olympics next month in China in the diving competition?
I have this fuzzy memory that Carly Fiorinio was fired from HP for SPYING ON HER EMPLOYEES via email... Isn't this the same woman, now representing McCain in this campaign?? HOW is this not being made news? The corp media will bring up if Obama farts the wrong way, but McCain has a corp spy working for him (not to mention those robber/lobbyists he's befriended, ooo and Phil Gramm heading up his economic policy, while trying to his the UBS fraud), oy vay, I just can't stand another minute of this farce.
ysbaddaden @ 12:
I hope the mothers of GOP representatives didn't forget that their sons and daughters voted against Mothers day, right after they voted for it.
doggiebobo @ 53:
Flip flop #62; McCain was for diving before he was against it.
nevermind, she IS the one who ran HP into the ground -- it was another woman in 2006 that spied on the employees and was subsequently fired. Still, for her to run HP's stock down after the merger (http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/), and then to be given a $21.4M severance package for that awesome legacy... how does anyone take her seriously?? check out her history as a marketing agent for Lucent & other companies, driving HP down until she was fired when it came back a bit... I don't understand how she can be taken w/ any credibility. goofballs.
Fiorina is a SILVER-TONGUED-DEVIL.
She's smooth.
She's attractive.
She lies, exaggerates, bends the truth, cherry-picks FACTS, and does it all with an air of conficence that she will NEVER be held responsible for re-writing history and mis-representing situations and circumstances.
She has a HUGE future ahead for her in the Republican Party.
Attila the Neopopulist, no Stomach for Imperial Adventures @ 36:
that is the funniest and probably most spot on thing i have read in a dog's age
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 35:
Exactly. To them business isn't a positive entity to generate profit and benefits for families, consumers, or the nation as a whole. It is a vehicle, a pirate ship if you will, that should be used to plunder. How many billions of dollars of value have been lost in this country because of dishonest, incompetent pieces of garbage like her?
nancy @ 54:
Pretty sad isn't it? It's like everything has been turned on its head. The inmates run the jail and the patients run the asylum. That what happens when you allow your representative democracy to be taken over by corporations.
harley @ 49:
What a genius Fiorina is---representing the finest in that Neocon cliche---f---k up and move up. If Ken Lay were alive they'd make a great team. The broad and the fraud.
No wonder they got rid of her at Hewlett-Packard, if she ran that company with the judgement of character she know displays.
i watched this interview this past weekend. Carly didn't convince me of much........i respect her she is a smart accomplished person...but i didn't feel it.
Fiorina is a c**t. She damn near destroyed H.-P. and, with her pal Phil Gramm, will destroy the U.S. economy.
You have to give her credit that she knew she was contradicting him and it didn't matter. She was just intentionally lying for some reason only she knows because she's so smart. Otherwise the alternative is too absurd: that she doesn't even know McCains position or that he's flip-flopping too fast for her to catch up or his campaign hasn't informed the candidate of the new position. Either way it is a window to the chaos that is the McCain campaign.
I have full confidence that Carly Fiorina shall do for McCain's campaign that she accomplished for H.P.
Which is run what is left into the ground. Take the Golden Parachute. Continue to pretend she is some sort of finacial guru or CEO material.
For Carly, it was not a brilliant move what she did with compact
Computers while at H.P... Moving work to lower wages overseas makes her greedy, selfish and UnAmerican. She didn't have the brains to engineer a profitable company in the United States. Weak minds at the top. Their only thought of making a profit is a race to the bottom. Until the buying power is gone and it is too late to restore what has been purposely destroyed for personal profit of a few greedy wealthy people that try so very hard to run this country. And under Bush and republicans have in fact been able to run the country into the ground.
She has her own private Gestapo. Why would I believe her?????
this woman almost singlehandedly brought down hp and helped to reinforce the glass ceiling for women
she has no crediblity
she is a windup toy
Fiorina is one of Karl Roves (TURD BLOSSUM) students she has learned well at foot of the MASTER. So has the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA. I have a Question that No one has ask John McCain and his handlers, Is BUSH and HIS CRIME FAMILY leaving this COUNTRY in better shape than when Karl Rove (TURD BLOSSUM) instaled Bush in the White House for EIGHT YEARS. I know that this Question will never should be ask.
she is the consummate republican: failed leadership, job loss, stock market underperformance, personal enrichment
...Still, there is plenty to criticize about Fiorina's tenure at HP. At this point, the changes that Fiorina made didn't turn out so well for the thousands of Hewlett Packard and Compaq employees that were laid off and the millions of HP stockholders who lost equity since she took over. HP stock is worth less today than it was in 1999. Dell and IBM stock has increased in value.
I guess the changes didn't work out too well for Ms. Fiorina either. Though based on her $21 million severance package and her generous compensation while employed at HP, I doubt very much that she's worried about making ends meet...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/09/scitech/pcanswer/main672809.shtml
I had worked for HP for 20 years before this excuse for a human being, Carly Fiorina, arrived at Hewlett-Packard. I watched her single-handedly destroy the company and eventually lay me off as well as others - all for her own aggrandizement.
In fact, I saw so many comparisons to George Bush’s Machiavellian methods of running America into the ground and Carly Fiorina’s Machiavellian running of Hewlett-Packard into the ground that I often sighted them.
In all truth, Fiorina = Bush even more than McCain = Bush
I have nothing but disdain for this lying sack of human excrement.
“No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have.”
If she was my woman I would whip the bitch!
Anoter stupid, incompetent, lying corporate hack (who nearly destroyed HP), now working for the GOP.
Sounds like a perfect fit. She definitely had all the qualifications for a high position within the republican ranks.
DIS-Missssseed! Thanks for the effort of putting the clips together. Didn't see Meet the Press, did anyone call her on it? Because, unfortunately, more people watch MTP than read this blog. Sorry, but I believe they have the numbers.
A triumph of the truthiness of facts
It's a shame she sucked so bad at her last job they had to fire her. Because it looks like she could sure use some money to do something about that face.
how funny is it that this failure whorebag is a shill for McCain.
awesome.
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