No Way! No How! No McCain!
By Nicole Belle Monday Aug 25, 2008 10:20pm
She hit it out the park, no doubt about it.
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She hit it out the park, no doubt about it.
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good stuff, she mauled 'im
Wow!
Now will it stick?
She did alright but she didnt mention that O is ready to lead and up to being CIC. Close but no cigar. Sorry.
Come on Hillary fans support Obama.
Hillary can still run in 4 years.
Hillary Tries to Turn ‘PUMAs’ Into ‘NIKEs’
Fan-fucking-fastic speech!
Harriet Tubman's chant....Keep Going!
That's the Hilary I really respect.
Now we can officially call the PUMA's
Clinton's Unloyal Undermining Troops
A vote for McCain instead of Obama if they voted for Clinton in the primary is just the same as spitting on Clinton's values and the values of the American people.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Please. No speech can do everything. This was a box of cigars. Damn good speach.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Eh. It has been a mistake free convention so far. That is the goal. In the end, the pundits will FINALLY realize that this has been a mistake free convention.
Bubba
Biden
and
Obama yet to come!
Now we can officially call the PUMA's
Clinton's Unloyal Narcissistic Troops
A vote for McCain instead of Obama if they voted for Clinton in the primary is just the same as spitting on Clinton's values and the future of the next generation.
I applaud Clinton for a great speech.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Is that you William "The Bloody" KKKristol because that is exactly what he said, and if he said it you know its not relevant!
If anybody wants to claim Hillary Clinton doesn't whole heartedly support Barack Obama for president, they just got their truth-o-cution.
She touched on everything from civil rights to womens rights to renewable energy to expanding our job base with green technology. And she even started off telling her supporters to vote for Obama.
If anyone can still harbor any resentment to her or her supporters, their fucked up.
Adios PUMA's.
OK, Lets move forward now. No More McCain.
Obama/Biden 08
nin-mofo @ 9:
Yeah man the finale will be something else.
Thanks Hillary!
She nailed it. Absolutely.
Hasn't Chelsea become a beautiful, poised, articulate young woman?
Hey, choke on that, Rush, you filthy bastard.
I thought Senator Clinton was fantastic tonight. It was sadly comical to see all the pundits falling all over themselves to still push the bullsh*t storyline of disaffected Democrats and intra-party strife. Oy. Get over it already corporate media...
The Twin Cities.heh, LMAO!
The Associated Press is at it again!
They want to be sure the republican talking points are thrown out there, and beaten into our heads. The heck with the Democratic National Convention, let's report on what Mitt & the rest of the right wing nut jobs have to say!
GOP 'war room' revs up as Giuliani goes on air
DENVER - While former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner gave the Democratic convention keynote address, Republican Rudy Giuliani was arguing that Barack Obama isn't ready for prime time.
"If Democrats are telling us he's not ready to be president of the United States, we better listen," former presidential candidate Giuliani, a John McCain surrogate here, said in an interview on the Fox News Channel.
Giuliani, along with another vanquished McCain foe, Mitt Romney, made a flurry of media rounds in the continuing GOP effort to counter the Democratic convention narrative.
BigIslandDave @ 15:
Yeah, she has.
I wonder if she'll get into politics?
"She hit it out the park, no doubt about it." ...
Absolutely. A tape-measure, grand-slam into the bleachers. As someone who voted for her in the primary, and later was very disappointed with her Republican-like tactics, I can only say that she conducted herself with impeccable class tonight and gained back a lot of the respect she had tarnished earlier this year.
I am very very grateful that she gave that speech.
Period.
AMEN!!!
Man, I would bang that cankle quick!!
I didnt watch, but want to know, did she address the threat to reproductive rights and equal pay for women as threats posed by McCain?
I think these are the things that need to be held up to the faces of her angry supporters and be told that voting for McCain or against Obama is the absolute DUMBEST way to show off your angry-feminist street cred.
Great speech.
There's a huge contrast to flip between msnbc and fox's take on the speech..
keith Irvin @ 3:
Douche. She did over & over. Maybe you shoulda pulled your head outta your cats arse & you would have noticed that her speech was far beyond perfect. I can't wait until McIdiot has to read his speech from a teleprompter (fingers crossed for a lime green background)
Lets see PUMA! or are you pussy cats now?
Not what I expected, but I have to admit. SHE DID FANTASTIC
As someone who gets more enjoyment listening to talk radio during "drive time", all I have to say is...enough is enough.
Enough of listening to the insults of the Levins, Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world.
The time is now. All of us. It is time to remind the country of what DEMOCRATS have done for the average American. What we have done America. The GOP is the party of fiscal restraint? HA! The emperor has no clothes. The GOP is the party of liberty and equality? HA! The emperor has no clothes. The GOP is the party of responsibilty in foreign policy? HA! The emperor has no clothes.
Let's do it!!! We can win. We WILL win. All of us together. Gays, women, minorities...EVERYONE!
Black_Knight @ 7:
maybe you missed the memo: the PUMAs are largely a figment of the media's desire to divide the dems.
And I can't wait to see Hillary standing beside Obama when he signs universal health care into law!
Great speech; great woman.
Now republican Loving media; stfu!
GREAT SPEECH! UNITY!
[despite the best efforts of the trolls on this site]
The Reptilian Repuklicans are going DOWN!!!!
mudshark @ 13:
I'm all for party unity. But, I still think that there are underlying issues from the Primaries that didn't get solved. But I doubt that people are messed up for not believing her. She did some really appalling things that are not easily forgettable.
Yes, she spoke well (as much as a monotone, stilted oratory style can bring), but she still hasn't changed her spots. They've only mutated to a different form.
Filthy Harry @ 23:
Not sure if she mentioned reproductive rights, but she did mention equal pay for women.
"We are on the same team..."
Damn straight.
Billy was mighty proud ov ol' Hill tonight, ya'll. His puffy face went all pink.
BEST F'IN SPEECH Senator Clinton has ever made. Well done.
PS, watched CNN-HD and, uh, oh, boy...hi-def alright... But what the fuck is with the sound meter along the side? Is this a Monster Truck show CNN? I know you all have a big erection for filling the screen with useless eye-candy and shit to read...but screw you and your sound meter.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hang in the balance.
We've got to ensure that the choice we make in this election honors the sacrifices of all who came before us, and will fill the lives of our children with possibility and hope.
I am honored to be here tonight. A proud mother. A proud Democrat. A proud American. And a proud supporter of Barack Obama.
Wanna try another bloody bill stupid quote?
Eh, I wish they hadn't felt the need to make the long intro video and I wish she hadn't focused so much of her speech on her and why she ran for president. I understand that the DNC feels they need to appease her supporters, and that's fine, but I feel like much of the thrust of the whole thing was more "Man, Hillary was an awesome candidate" rather than "Hillary calls for unison and supports Obama."
Mike @ 24:
I noticed that too. Nearly every Fox talking head repeated the line "No endorsement." What speech were they listening to? Hillary did a fantastic job...best of the convention so far. Perhaps they should let her speak again tomorrow!
I'm not a Hillary-head, but that was not only the best speech I've ever seen her give, it's one of the best speeches I've ever seen anyone give. I don't see how any Democrat could ask for more. Take that, Republicans and the media, who wanted to see a divided Democratic party and only tepid support of Obama by Clinton.
Sorry to tell everybody, but all TV networks and most blogs have utterly failed in their coverage of the DNC. Crooks and Liars has done well (and thanks so much for the Kucinich video) but everybody else seems to be partying more than working. TV is succeeding in turning off half the voters in the country. No wonder we are in such a mess.
I am no hillary fan, but she gave a great speech, and she did her best to demonstrate party unity, backing Barack Obama for President and Joe Biden for Vice-President.
November 4th cannot come soon enough, NO MORE LOYAL BUSHIES!!!
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 32:
No offense Ceci, but it would appear that you're the one with the issues now. Time to move forward Ceci .
Both campaigns are guilty Ceci. No one is innocent in this. Let it go and lets move forward.
Her speech was good/great, however I'm not sure whether it pulled in her supporters who now claim to either vote for McCain or not vote at all.
I went back and forth with Hillary (at first I was for voting for Barack Obama, then, seeing this really really intense sexism happening, I wanted to switch to her. Then again, after seeing her campaign getting so mangled in racism and personal attacks, I decided again for Obama)
Still, the sexism was horrendous - most still feel better to vote for a man, any man - be it black or white - rather than vote for a woman. To now see these pundits talk about how she won about half of the votes and deserves blah blah blah......it makes me want to puke.
THEY are the ones to make fun of/ignore the horrific history McCain has on women. Calling his own wife a c*nt???? 'How do we beat the bitch? ....... Haha. Great question though....' Etc etc.
I'm mad/sad/disappointed that Hillary did not point out the horrible stances of John McCain vs. Barack Obama. How women would be so much worse off under a McCain administration.
I hoped she would do more to get her supporters and/or independants to the Obama ticket.....
Oh well......so we may lose again......shoot me already.
ultra @ 37:
I believe thats what much of the negotiating was about before the convention. How to let Hillary support Obama while still making her feel as important as she thinks she is.
So far so good. Let's see the rest (stuck in the sticks with no TV).
I love KO, but I think he just creamed his pants over the speech. ...even more emotional than Chris Matthews.
Well, it was one hell of a speech.
I thought it was a well done speech but it wasn't for Obama supporters. It was 100% directed to that 30% of Hillary supporters who'd rather vote for McCain. On that account, she did great. At times it felt like watching a parralel universe version of the convention had Hillary won the nom though.
You know what would be greater???
If Obama, Bill, and Hillary held a joint UNITY rally next Friday right after the Republican convention!!!
I think Hillary did all right with her speech, and about time she prodded her supporters to help Obama.
BTW, anyone see that McSame stole her '3AM Call' and basically slapped his "I approve this message" on after it? Keith Olbermann called him out on it before the Hillary speech, and while I was switching between the channels to see how the talking heads covered the many speakers, I saw Fixed Noise air that ad twice. -_-
Biden's probably going to be a little old to run in eight years. Or maybe even four.
Maybe there's a little deal going on here. Hillary comes out swingin', then gets the VP gig somewhere down the track, setting up for a WH run.
She never took back the ammo McCain pounding Obama with.
B
She did wonderful, an immensely talented woman. Her daughter is gorgeous. And watching Bill work the crowd is always enjoyable.
Bill and Hillary have been great for the country. Bill Clinton played it straight down the middle, he reformed social services, he defended the country and he balanced the budget. He was a great President. Hillary has always been a defender of the poor, the disenfrancised, working people and children. She is a great American.
I look forward to them being "in the game" with Barack Obama.
We're gonna win, and show the country once again...what is good and right about the Democratic Party.
"Hit it out of the park"? I don't think so. What did people expect? I didn't hear her say Obama has the experience. I didn't hear her say Obama can take the 3 am call. I didn't hear her say low income White voters will vote for Obama. I didn't hear her say Obama has the right stance on Iran. I could go on.
Of course she was gonna say vote for Obama. And yeah, props for the did you vote for me or for the marine..., etc...". But 1/2 the speech was her campaigning. I also never heard her say, and she NEEDED to say, "If you voted for me in the primary, you need to vote for Obama." It needed to be explicit.
I know we all want unity, and I damn sure hope this was enough, but from the pure perspective of what she needed to, and what she actually said, I (again) was disappointed with HRC.
Mister Anderson @ 48:
I think the three of them need to get high, have a freaky threesome and get over it.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 32:
I'll forego the animosity for now. She towed the line, which is an awesome step for her to take. Good on her!
Rico @ 38:
What does FOX know about politics, policy or anything to do with government. They are the network of train wrecks, plane crashes and missing persons.
they even tried to drag spike lee into the PUMA idiocy.
ultra @ 37:
Are you unfamiliar with the way conventions work?
Please read Eric Boehlert's Media Matter piece giving a little bit of DNC history before it lambastes the press for giving the public the impression that Hillary is somehow detracting from Obama's candidacy.
I find that there are a lot of Hillary haters out there who are completely uninformed about historical precedents and hold her to a much higher standard than any other politician that came before her.
Hillary, simply by her presence tonight reminded everyone that their are millions of voters in the Dem Party who want her heard, whether the other stooges in the party want to listen or not. Democracy 101.
Jeri @ 49:
I think the Dems should run a '3PM Call' ad against McCain. The 'call' comes in, and there he is, broad daylight, slippers on and snoozin' the day away. 'Sir.' 'Mmmmphhh...' 'Sir.' 'Mmmmpphh...not now Vicky...'
those hillary supporters who say they won't vote for obama are going to be directly resposible for the murder of our american servicemen and women. because if mccain wins, that dirty motherfucker will get us involved in another war for no reason, because he will be beholden to the neocons. think about that before you make your decision. a vote for mccain is a death sentence for our service personel. it will be on you.
ciu @ 31:
As stalin so aptly put it: It's who counts the votes that matters.
Liberal AND Proud @ 57:
Fox's political experts are a compilation of felons, pardoned traitors, discredited politicians and political hacks.
Clif @ 36:
Americans better think long and hard before installing a blood thirsty war monger like McCain in office.
L.A. Confidential @ 60:
Democracy?! What country are you living it? I thought this whole thing was just another bad reality show crapped out by the networks.
mudshark @ 17:
I busted out laughing on that one too. A great speech by a class act. Too bad she had that imbecile Mark Penn run her campaign.
Teddy Phuf @ 54:
What speach were you watching. I think the part where she talked about were you in this for me, or were you in this for that mother with the autistic kids, that marine, etc really told her supporters why you need to vote for O'bama -> for those people, for the people Hillary was in the campaign for.
Liberal AND Proud @ 64:
In short, Neocons.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Dude, I didn't caucus for her, but come on; she hit it out of the park tonight. I will absolutely vote for her in eight years if she runs.
As to your concern: please consider the possibility that she didn't mention that because it does not need mentioning, and mentioning it merely represents insecurity over an issue that only exists if you mention it.
Advertisement: "I'm Barack Obama and I don't steal candy from babies."
Veiwer: "Hmm. I wonder if Obama steals candy from babies."
I hope Kos asks her about the color of tonight's pantsuit (assuming he is given the opportunity.)
bmw 528 @ 67:
He didn't run her campaign. She did.
Nicole Belle @ 59:
I think it's more like slowly fading ill feelings. many have not healed yet, Nicole. We have several regulars here and I've seen many at Huffpo and other places. Even if the candidates put on that stiff upper lip, there are many on both sides who doled out the lashes during the debate season and both sides have people who are still nursing their anger.
enough @ 40:
Go to C-span.
No commentary, no commercials, videos of yesterday's speeches, etc, etc.
http://www.c-span.org/
Teddy Phuf @ 54:
Really? I mean, really? As a backer of Obama from the beginning, I thought she covered what needed to be covered in the time she was given. She said she supported Barack, she said McCain was unequivocally a poor choice, and took the time to thank everyone who had supported her during her run for the presidency. Really, not much else could be asked of her.
Liberal AND Proud @ 57:
They know absolutely nothing, they book karl rove and get the GOP neocon talking points straight from Cheney's office.
Faux Snooze = Reicht-Winged Propaganda Machine.
I want a button and a bumper sticker with this new mantra on it. Fantastic job Hilary.
Filthy Harry @ 71:
She apparently approved his message. What a mistake.
Filthy Harry @ 66:
Hillary lost primarily because she was betrayed by the Dem Leadership who participated in James Clyburn's campaign to paint the Clintons as racists.
Great speech? You're kidding right? Obama is doomed.
In fact, it was so good that it undoubtedly wrapped up the win for McPOW. Remember, everything good that happens to the Democrats is secretly (and then publicly, when the MSM tells us) good for Republicans.
Clinton has become a fine public speaker. Some people read speeches and some deliver them with passion and conviction. HRC is clearly in the latter category.
And some butcher them, e.g., Mark Warner -- worst keynote ever?
Still amazes me that she needs to convince her die-hard supporters that they should be voting for Obama!
Since most of them probably agree with her Iraq war vote, they probably would not mind a McCain in the White House.
keith Irvin @ 3:
Keith, don't listen to these people saying you're wrong - you're right - that is the clip the repubs are playing nonstop, those were her words, she had to explicitly take them back/flip them - it's a soundbite world - needed a soundbite to directly address that MAJOR mistake from the primaries
good speech, but not great or 500-foot homerun - I'm glad people are reacting positively to it, since that's the goal, I just don't think she checked every important box that she had to to make up for the shit she pulled in the primaries
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 58:
they being david gregory and some bimbette at msnbc.
bmw 528 @ 67:
Yep, That guy is an idiot.
Axelrod is the man right now. He plays hardball. But politics is a contact sport.
mudshark @ 42:
It was soooo refreshing to hear and see a great speech delivered with nary a glance at her script (except at the beginning). Exceptional well done - much like Bill's speech at the DNC in 2000.
It was especially nice of Hillary to mention Arkansas's own Bill Gwatney (R.I.P) and my old hometown of Seneca Falls N.Y. - home of the first Women's Rights Convention.
Contrast that with the "twin cities" Bush/McCain's ineptitude to get past two sentences without fucking up or having to read theirs. The Rethuglicants will try hard at their convention to be as well versed - but the can't because they are not.
Nicole Belle @ 59:
Bingo!
That was an astounding speech. Thank you Hillary. Now lets go kick grandpa in his lying yellow teeth.
Exellent speech. But the only thing she didn't do was hit home to woman voters that their constitiutional right to privacy is a stake. McCain is planning on allowing a male-dominated Supreme Court dictate their re-productive rights. That's a huge emotional issue.
I understand FOX Noise are spinning this like crazy. And Wolf Blitzer (prick!) and CNN are still milking the alleged divisions in the party. Is it just a case of ratings to these people?
Hillary kicked butt and everyone knows it even if they don't want to admit it. Hillary got for her supporters the Universal Health Care Plan for all of us. That's what she and her supporters were fighting for and that's what she got. She's not looking out for herself but for the American people. Now those who still have a problem with Hillary must have deep issues within themselves with strong woman. But most men who are not threaten by a woman and are strong themselves know Hillary did great. It's been a long hard struggle for Woman since the Woman's Rights bill was passed but Hillary has made positive growth for the future.
L.A. Confidential @ 78: