Right wing TV Pundits destroy every segment on Democratic Convention
By John Amato Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 6:00pmEvery time I turn on the TV and watch CNN and FOX (my hotel doesn't get MSNBC) every Republican operative controls the dialog and direction of the panel discussion and it's disgusting. Just one example---Hillary Clinton gave a brilliant speech last night, but every Amy Holmes-type talking head throws as much cold water on the speech as he or she can. The result is that the Dem talkers spend the rest of the time disputing the outrageous claims made and thus the GOP controls the entire framing and the entire segment. It's shameful that the networks are allowing this to happen. I saw Jeffrey Toobin tell Amy that she was out of her mind with some of her comments and the discussion continues to that end. Soledad O'Brien comes back and says "well, that was a lively discussion." Oh, no it was not. It's a calculated ratf&@k. This is going on all day and all night.
Why is the Democratic Convention being ruined by these creeps? And why do all the networks allow it to happen? Why do we need them on in force to counter what is supposed to be our event?
I'm in Denver and it's a completely different atmosphere. Party unison abounds, but you'd never know it from watching TV. Karl Rove acts like the biggest troll known to man---making sure to point out every little detail he dislikes. Well, his mission is to get McCain in the White House. But he's the expert that Chris Wallace goes to for his "unbiased" take.
Will the Democratic talkers be allowed to do the same to the Republican Convention? I think not. It will be viewed as being an incredible event.
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I've notice that too.
When they control the information, they can bend it all they want.
(h/t to narcissist John Mayer)
Feel sorry you are forced to listen to that. I am beginning to do a Cheney (oh my GOD) and make sure hotel has both MSNBC and Comedy Central before I agree to a reservation.
I watched PBS and it was a little better than what you describe last night.
My question: When did we begin to depend on pundits and their bloviation? It seems like we don't get any newsworthy event without 90 "experts" opining on it nowadays.
I'm sick and tired of being spoonfed crappola.
The only way to change the media is to withdraw your consent. Stop watching. Tell your friends to stop watching. Have them tell their friends to stop watching.
As long as they have eyeballs, they have advertisers. As long as they have advertisers, complaints are just more hot air. Meaningless at worst, advertising at best.
John,
Do you really think there is a difference between these two parties? I think history can show us both sides are different sides of the same political coin. No matter which way the coin falls, we the citizens get screwed.
It's painfully obvious to me. I don't truth either party whatsoever.
Chill. They aren't ruining the convention. Don't give these creeps a power they don't have. Their power is big enough, to be sure, but not all-powerful. So we push back, but we don't have to power.
well, i'm sure that the networks will have dem talking heads on all during the repub's convention.
yeah, right!
Soledad on CNN has also been making a point of calling it the "Democrat Party". She keeps injecting her own little spin and she knows exactly what she's doing.
Lilybelle @ 6:
Don't have to cower. Typing and drinking wine at the same time. Oops.
Average Guy @ 5:
Sorry I meant "trust"
I'm watching it on CSPAN as the networks only show what they want you to see and the damn pundits won't shut up. You can also hear it on Sirius and XM.
Watch C-SPAN and/or PBS and pass on the gasbags.
It's all they have. Next week, the Republican convention other than their lying, revolting attacks will be a snooze fest. KCET, a local Los Angeles PBS station carried all the speeches as did the radio station KPFK, a Pacifica station. The speeches were very inspiring, and many had siginificant points to make about the Democratic agenda. Do you think the Republicans dare talk about their agenda, their platform. No, of course not, that will be a national security top secret document.
Vicki
Stop whining and let's just throw cold water on them next week. Sounds good?
Watch the Democratic Convention without commercials or commentary.
Watch on C-Span.
http://www.c-span.org/
Includes video of speeches and workshops from previous days.
Or go to the pages with Live Coverage:
RealPlayer:
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_rm.aspx
Windows Media Video:
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
Vermin says:
"I am beginning to do a Cheney (oh my GOD) and make sure hotel has both MSNBC and Comedy Central before I agree to a reservation."
That is a GREAT idea. Imagine if we all did this. And the big hotel chains would have to realize who their clientèle really are and they have to begin catering to the comedy central crowd! I love this idea!
There is a difference between the two parties...gotta go.
I've been watching MSNBC and enjoying Chris Matthews ridiculous ever changing wind swept hair art.
It's plastered to his skull today in a kind of nouveau "Roman Senator" meets dumpster diver look.
Cspan is great! And the streaming web from the DNC is good too. Just avoid all the negative, cynical pundits.
John Amato @ 17:
Zing!
Try C-Span.
All-day convention, pundit-free.
Ahhhhhhhhh!
This is precisely why I'd prefer NOT to watch CNN. I was absolutely appalled by Campbell Brown's total cynicism and negativity. I thought WTF is going on here? Is CNN finally showing their fascist colors or what? I flipped into CNN following the stellar moment in our nation's history when Obama was made the candidate and Gloria Borgia looked like she was going to barf. Anyone and I mean ANYONE who was not moved by what just occurred at this convention does not have a pulse or is such a pathological misanthrope that they don't deserve recognition.
Let's all email CNN and tell them that they've outed themselves and the american people will have none of it. Boycott their sponsors and hit them where it hurts.
I found the moderators during this event absolutely repulsive and disgusting. Wolf Blitzer, John, Campbell Brown, Gloria Borger (or Borgia) are so clearly republican that they should never have been moderating this event for the democrats. The democrats are projecting unity and celebrating our oneness and, at every turn, each of them interjected cynicism, competition, and even the Republican meme (Campbell brown) into the narration of the convention. They do not deserve the respect of the american people. They deserve to be shunned and their sponsors boycotted.
Kudos to John Amato for bringing his observations to us - we second them one hundred percent. Now it's time to express our dissatisfaction directly to CNN.
Does anyone have contact information for the head of CNN? If so, please pass it on so we can deluge him/her with criticism and let them know that we will no longer watch their programming.
OMG that is just what I had been venting about to anyone who will listen. I don't know if I can watch CNN anymore at all. C-Span is the only way to watch the convention without the boobleheads spewing their disgust. It will be a lovefest when the GOP has their convention and I will be vomiting everynight.
They don't even try to hide their bias anymore. The woman on CNN said, "And now back to the Democrat Convention," with a look of disgust on her face and tone in her voice. Shouldn't their be a law against hiring boobleheads from the administration to work on the Network News channels as if they are real newscasters!
Something has to change!! TV media no longer is real, it is a fabrication of the world as conservatives see it.
It is geared to the baseness and lowest forms of humans in our country. It preys on our emotional weaknesses. I was and will continue to scream at them and will blame the media if Obama loses. It's off to Ohio to go door to door for me. Get out the VOTE. Talk till you are blue in the face (no pun intended).
OBAMA 08
Linda in Oregon @ 21:
C-SPAN IS THE WAY TO GO. BOYCOTT CNN NOW.
I agree 100% with John Amato. And that's why I'm watching the coverage of the Democratic Convention on Al-Jazeera English. That's right, Al-Jazeera!
I speak on behalf of the world: FUCK YOU REPUBLICANS AND THE ASS RIMMING MEDIA YOU RODE IN ON!!
It is in the intere$t of the media to keep this a close election. If it goes too much in the favor of Obama, they will push the talk to McShitforBrains and visa versa. It's their bottom line, they want everyone watching. That's why Wolf and Tweety and still around. I quit watching msm and turned to c-span, public tv, public radio and of course the internet. Fvckm.
I didn't see the Clinton speech, but I got to watch the Republicans, in full Brady Bunch format, get 30 minutes of analysis and shit throwing in afterwards.
Even Hillary Rosen fucked up, when she said "John McCain" instead of Barack Obama when talking about who Hillary was going to support.
Carville was the only one throwing down on CNN, but fuck it. We all know the game. This thing may not be close at all, but you'd never know it based on the Traditional Media's onslaught.
Our country is fucked - no critical thinkers and a bunch of corporate shill propagandist bitches at the helm.
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Darya @ 23:
CNN is so overtly republican that it's sickening. Now we know precisely where they're coming from. Time to boycott the Republican National Convention on CNN and show them the power of the purse. (boycott every advertiser as well). I have found their coverage to be totally biased, overtly negative and cynical, as well as very active attempts to create problems where none have existed.
It's clear to everyone now that CNN is just another reichwing propaganda mouthpiece - no different than Fox News. These idiot bobbleheads deserve no respect and should, instead, be out on the unemployment lines. Their presentation of the news is biased and unfair. They should be ashamed of themselves and the assholish way they've covered this convention.
What did you expect?
Anyway, I don't watch ANY network TV (don't live in US! Ha ha!!).
I watch the DNC on Youtube and C-Span.
Awwww NO PUNDITOS there.
No one to tell me what to think after the fact.
It's soooo nice.
I agree with you John. I watched MsNBC and even got tired of the pundits there. Pat Buchanan was insufferable. I caught segments of CNN and (the horrors!) Faux "news." Laura Ingraham and Billo and Dennis Miller ( what ever happened to him, anyway?) went on and on and on. It was disgusting. Thank goodness I didn't get to see that traitor Karl Rove, I might have just lost it.
Today, I am ONLY watching Cspan. I don't really need the pundits to tell me what to think. I urge everyone to do the same and save yourself the trouble if you have cable. If not, stick with Utube.
So, how many democrats are going to *not* destroy every segment on the Republican Convention, no matter how much they feel is right (or how much is right?)
It's their job to tear down the Democrats. People pay their bills and their grandson's bills to do this.
Darya @ 23:
solid @ 26:
ALL TV media are nothing more than sycophantic reichwing whores who pimp the people for a paycheck. The respect level for these paid whores is descending by the moment. The coverage of this convention proves that what they present is nothing but "spin and bullshit". Believe absolutely NOTHING you hear on CNN or Fox.
This is all obviously the liberal media bias we constantly hear about...
/end snark
here's some basic CNN contact info:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/
LibertyLover @ 31:
Isn't it so much more peaceful to see the convention without the interruption and verbal diarrhea of these nuckle-headed idiots? Amazingly so. Besides, why would I pollute my mind with the rantings of paid whores who tote the party line for a paycheck? They're nothing more than a rehearsed bunch of buffoons....every last one of them.
These so-called journalists are filthy rich. They know if a democrat gets in they can kiss their precious tax-cuts good-bye. Did anyone notice how Bush isn't even covered anymore. The press is busy shielding their golden boy.
Widespread @ 1:
That's why we're waiting....for all the old, lifeless, self admitted professional pundits
(a.k.a. GOP water haulers) to die off and go away.
Until then, turn off the teevee and save what remains of your brain.
All of this is Kabuki theater of, by and for the talking class and the village idiots, they're paid to talk not think.
pinkobait @ 35:
Thanks a bunch for this link. Everyone now needs to begin bombarding the hierarchy at CNN with complaints about their moderation and bobbleheads. In the meantime, diss them by tuning into C-Span instead.
Lone Rogue @ 32:
Try to pay attention. We're not talking about Democrats here. We are talking about the "unbiased" ****cough****bullshit*** media conglomerate.
Why?
Becuase the networks owners want them to.
you need some straight talking British guy on there - you know `That's bollocks xxxx and you know it - what's really happening is this this this and that`
Pundits are just blowhards and windbags paid to reinforce what the news producers want to run with to dumb it down even further for the mindless fools who actually think theyre still getting information and not infotainment.
There are very, very few exceptions in the pundit pool. I dont see any reason to grant the rest any creedence, but Mr Amato shouldnt bitch, these assholes give him great blog fodder, and that pays the bills. ;)
Frankly, I love to see the nonsense people pay cable companies to watch. Its one of the many reasons I dont pay for cable. Its such crap the cable companies should have to pay their subscribers to watch it.
Turning off the TV is not good enough. The Democrats are a growing group. And our base is much more excited about this election than the GOPs. It's necessary to flood the press with calls and letters of complaint to ask for them to provide honest coverage.
Karl Rove and his cohorts sabotaged the Democrats in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004. The Republicans are doing it again. They are hijacking the DNC by controlling the mainstream media narrative. If the Dems cannot protect themselves against the dirty tricks of the Republicans; how can we trust them to protect us against Islamic terrorists?
sophya @ 36:
Yes. It is. I even got to see a replay of the Montana Governor's speech, that never even made it on the tube last night due to the talking heads.
I intend to watch the Repubs next week the same way.
Holmes is a right wing sock puppet of long standing. I've never seen anything she said on CNN, convention or not, that wasn't shameless going down on the Republican Party.
The "Corporate Fix" is in full swing. They will not have an outsider take the lead role in this country and especially due to his race.
If Obama losses this election with all that is against the repubs, the so called close polls, and the questionable voting machines, trust me I will never vote again. There is no need to since they seem to be choosing whom they want the the media.
Well, now ya know why I ain't paying much attention in real time at night to the blow by blow of this convention even though its almost as station and news saturated as the olympics were on T.V. last week... My BP gets tweaked enough just coming to this site and seeing what the goddamned republics have done to the nation and world the previous 24... I just don't want to deal with it after work at night too..... I've already conned myself into following Denny's advice.. That's about as far as I can go with the rah rah except to check it out sporadically on T.V. and here......JD
Well, the Dems are sending a full complement of pundits to the Twin Cities. The network there will not be controlled by Fox, as it is in Denver. But that doesn't affect the chattering
on the sets. Fox is doing itself up proud: totally boring. MSNBC does have spice. Olbeman and Scarborough have come close to duking it out (they're not on the set I don't believe), and the amazing Rachel has had a steady diet of debunking Buchanan. Buchanan's so pathetic he's
almost entertaining. And they're outside too.The rest of the MSNBC bunch are pretty bunch business as usual, good, bad, ugly. Chuck Todd is interesting too. I've given up on CNN....I can't stand Blitzer anymore.Personality problem, I guess. And only Fox has more visually boring set.
I sure hope the Dems send some "take no prisoners" pundits. The kind that will say "talking points", "empty slogans", "we've heard all of this before....a 100 times...". Nah, they'll probably send.....Lanny Davis and Wolfson.
I wouldn't stay in any hotel that had Fox but not MSNBC. Just for principle's sake. Or, at least I'd lodge a strong principled protest!
P.D. @ 37:
Not only Bush:Iraq.
Some recent headlines:
"Iraq bomb kills police recruits"
Chain wrapped around 'old man's body' found in mosque
"Bomb Shatters Party, Killing 25 Iraqis"
"Blackwater defends team in Baghdad shootings"
So, instead of whining about Soledad and her childish mispronunciation (paid for by the GOP), CALL CNN and tell them you don't appreciate their right-wing operatives interpreting the news. Post on their comments sections about it. And, turn to CSPAn or PBS. You don't have to watch these clusterfuckers. Oh, and be sure and let the sponsors know, too.
sophya @ 24:
Hear Hear! Boycott cable (except for Olbermann :)
FOX IS FOX.......pure bullshit. CNN keeps the news cycle alive, everyone trying to outdo the others. Their coverage is harmful to the country as they make stories where there are none.
I've been following the convention on the internet this week (had to go back to work, dammit). I'm looking ahead to January and realized that I'll be in a highly republican city for a state conference during the swearing-in. I know from experience that the hotel I've already had to book into only carried Faux (of course) and CNN, but fortunately they have free and unlimited internet access!!! Since the trusty MacBook Pro goes everywhere with me, I'll just bookmark some places to watch on-line ahead of time and reserve my sessions around the critical time.
I have confidence. When Obama takes the oath, I'm going to make sure I'll catch the moment and it sure as hell won't be on FOX or CNN.
Wanting to watch some coverage of the convention I turned on the evening new that had announced they would provide coverage - It was impossible to hear anything that was being said on the podium for all of the banter between newscasters and their continued "analysis" so I went to the trusty internet, downloaded the gizmos that would allow me to watch uninterrupted video from the podium complements of the DNCC - Now in my spare time I will contact CBS, NBC and ABC to let them know that I do not appreciate the prima dona act of their newscasters, I do not need an analysis of what is being said or "what this all means" - in other words just shut the fuck up and provide coverage. I have taken my business elsewhere - let them explain that to their advertisers. I do not bother to communicate with FOX except to tell them that they are weasles.
So, I hope that everyone will send an email to the major networks and let them have it.
BigT @ 43:
Right on Big T. That's why we have so much right wing media today. The right wing nut radio heads have been encouraging their audience for years contact the big networks. It's our turn, our responsibility to call and demand honest coverage!
Jon,
I believe it boils down to money.
The networks need to make money to keep operating.
There's a reason that "if it bleeds, it ledes" is part of the national lexicon.
The news industries need to keep the people who will provide them with more bad news in office.
So...the media uses its power to sway the electorate toward the party that gives them the news that provides more profits.
Years and years ago, WTBS out of Atlanta, tried running a show about nothing but good news with John Tush.
It panned. Badly. No one cares about good news.
This is just "you provide the story; we'll provide the war" redux.
Joe Scarbore is an ass. Total bullshit! It does seem that he has been put in his pace a little, though. MSNBC should just cut him loose. I change channels when he shows up.
I've been watching the MSNBC, and while it's been the same old overdramatizing of the "rift between Clinton and Obama", even they couldn't poo-poo last night's speech. Even Pat Buchanan raved about it. They allowed that speech to answer all their questions for them, and they weren't trying to incessantly push that narrative today.
I wasn't so much persuaded by the narrative as I was annoyed by it. It felt manufactured from the get-go.
And I suspect the MSM skips over all the speeches by the "little people" ..
But those have been some real gems.
For instance Lilly Ledbetter - whose successful suit against GoodYear for gender discrimination was overturned by the Supreme Court. Her style was wooden, she spoke in a thick Alabama accent. She moved me to tears.
MountainMan23 @ 62:
BIIIIIG time.
McCain said he was going to depend on the media and the media has done it's job for him. We knew it and realize that we have a bigger fight to win. That means we have to fight harder and not give up no matter how hard it gets. When it comes to the elections, we have to make sure every vote is counted honestly. We have to make sure that Diebold doesn't switch the votes. Please, don't let them get away with their B.S. again.
I won't watch CNN anymore it it has got to be a joke as far as being objective and unbiased , watching CNN last night after Clinton spoke at the Dem convention I thought maybe Rupert Murdoch had taken over CNN and that I hadn't heard the news . CNN , ABC , FOX ... I don't even bother anymore . Pathetic , absolutely pathetic .
I never watch the TV coverage live, nor will I pay for calbe, but I was at the Minnesota State Fair last night, and found a place to watch Hillary's speech. Katie Couric was loathesome, interviewing Mitt Romney during the segment (who looks like Lord Farquad from Shrek now) turning every interview into a statement about how McCain's strategy was "working" yadda yadda. BUT I also heard this morning that a die-hard Republican relative plans to vote for Obama; if he is voting Obama, then the pundits have it all wrong.
It is why I can not stand to watch the corporate media and their gas-bags anymore .... the internet is the only good source.
John Amato @ 17:
I used to believe that myself. But all I see is a staged left/right paradigm. One party commits crimes and the other covers it up, blames the other and vice versa. Another 4 years pass and it repeats itself. Why won't the Dems repeal the Patriot Act? Why won't they end the wars?
Neither party recognizes the Constitution anymore except for a very few members in the Congress like Kucinich and Paul. We have a criminal administration and a Democratic speaker of the house that say Impeachment is off the table.
What's the difference?
so true. larry king even has a nightly gop reaction to the convention day. duh? of course theyre going to diss everything as much as they can. rethugs are not known for reason and graciousness. so after the convention, i go to msnbc. with a live crowd, the atmosphere is more festive and truly reflects more of just what happened inside the convention center.
my worry is though larry king will probably give dems the same courtesy next week, they will no have the appetite to do the same thing the rethugs. they should start sending out talking points to the people larry king booked on his show.
i saw bill burton today on msnbc. he should be put out there more. he's genial and he makes sense. he said that the campaign is not going to apologize for attracting many people. true, why should they?
It's almost to the point where they are finally cutting their own throats. I could not even imagine watching, umm what do they call it, news? Did the meaning of that word change while I was getting out getting drunk?
I couldn't imaging myself watching anything for that matter.
All told it (tv) has proven itself to be an inherently evil artifact.
Yeah, ya' gotta find a few great websites to check a couple times of day and you can keep up quite nicely.
Well, what DID you expect from the corporate-owned media? That they would be impartial? PUH-LEEZ! They'll do everything they can to diminish the Democratic ticket, and if Obama and Biden don't fight back HARD and mean, they'll get away with it. The Dems need to be kicking ass literally and metaphorically from now through election day if they are to even have a chance. There's a hell of a lot riding on this election and there are a lot of very rich, very powerful people who feel they have a lot to lose.
I watched it on CSPAN and the net.
There was no FOX NETWORK CONTROL THERE.
The really good question is this:
WHO INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ALLOWED FOX NEWS NETWORK TO BE THE ONLY MEDIA COMPANY TO OWN THE FEED FROM THEIR CONVENTION?
In other words, who is the FOX MOLE INSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
AND
How long before you Democrats out there wake up and cancel your paid TV?
You are $upporting the ENEMY.
Average Guy @ 68:
You are the difference. You have to quit being just the "AVERAGE GUY."
Average Guy @5 does have a valid point, sometimes I feel like both parties are taking part in a "Good-cop / Bad-Cop" game so that they can accomplish what they want to do. One party takes it too far and the people protest, then the next party takes over and makes everyone believe they are doing their best to reverse the attrocities of the former party. Of course, they never manage to set things straight, blaming the gridlock in congress for their failure. The people get angry and years later the other party is elected and the cycle continues.
Let's face it. The corporate elite own both parties, they own the House, the Senate, the media, the banks, and the Supreme Court. The corporate elite will take 5 bushels of apples and give one bushel back to appease the protesters. The people think they won a victory, but sadly they have lost every single time. They will never allow any big changes that will interfere with their profit and control of the people. An honest politician can never accomplish what he/she wants to do because the corporate elite will never let it happen. They will smear anyone who actually stands up for the people. They will never allow someone with a voice for the people any substantial air time, atleast, not without calling that person crazy, smearing, or discrediting them. The elite want to destroy the middle class. All that will be left is the obscenely rich and the extremely poor. The poor will be forced to work for a pitance while the fat cats get richer and richer.
I fear that even Obama will not be able to accomplish much, even though most of the country is behind him. The people will forget what the Republicans did and their anger will be directed to the Democrats because nothing was done. They will then elect another Republican and the vicious cycle will continue.
Regarding the corporate elite dominated media: (I got most of the following from the internet)
All these media giants would be severely crippled
if the viewers turned it off
and canceled their accounts.
they can not live without OUR MONEY.
CANCEL YOUR PAY TV AND HELP SAVE YOUR NATION.
Its crazy but the right controls the script.
You have a black man running against a deep in the thick of the establishment white rich old man - turn the black guy into the out of touch elitist.
You have a GOP potential nominee running in the primaries who was so deeply unpopular in his own party that you have the types of limbaugh and coulter saying they would never vote for him in a million years. once he he wins the nomination what do you do you? you push the story that the democrats are in are no unified and are in disarray.
you have brilliant speeches being made and all you see are the right dumping their nasty horribel negative nonsense on every single thing that happens.
Michelles obamas speech was amazing but the right have managed to pretty nullify it.
You almost have to admire their unbending un wavering dedication to lies and distortion.
It sucks but the democrats have to get tougher.
Bill maher said it best. he said democrats lose because democrats are pussies.
They need to slink down to the GOPs level.
I mean look at how much airtime has been given to these ridiculous PUMAS. and it isn't just fox. Its all of them.
As far as I could see the pumas consisted of two people but it was given so much attention you would think thousands and thousands of them stormed the convention.
The right control everything.
every time I turn on the t.v. and it doesn't matter which one it is there is a right winger gettting the lies out there that this convention is failing.
next week we will here things like "hes a new man" "envigorated" "energized" "like we've never seen him before" " you would never know he was aman in his 70's he is speaking like a man more than half his age" "his experiance outshone obama" "seperated the men from the boys" etc etc etc
mark my words. that is what we will hear next week.
It was sayonara to CNN after seeing Ben Stein and William Bennett there.
There's a convention? I thought the republican news programs had been expanded to a "all through the evening format." Guess I better turn on c-span but how am I gonna know what I should be thinking so I am not too different then those around me?
and yes...I am the worlds worst typist!!
The winger pundits are working to do to political coverage what Bush has done to governing. Make the political process so unpalatable that it turns off the maximum number of people. Then they won't have to spend money covering it. Like Bush, they just mouth the words "freedom" and "democracy," while working to undermine them.
Centrocitta @ 25:
Such is American 'Federal Politics'.
51% of the electorate buys into this.
"Al-Jazerra ??'
I suspect they are as good as BBC news .
Ron @ 72:
I do try. I'm trying to unite people instead of being separated by these two party lines. I have found a group who really cares about this country. I joined Ron Paul's " Campaign for Liberty". It's a PAC group that will fund any candidate for local and state offices regardless of party affiliation just as long as they uphold the Constitution. He has already endorsed a Democrat as well as Independents.
In only two months we have 90,000 people pledged to help any Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green, Libertarian who promises to defend and restore our Constitution.
yOU JUST NOTICING THIS NOW? ev