Oy. 26 minutes, 72 throat clearings (phlegm count courtesy of Keith Olbermann) and a whole lotta yawns.  But what can you expect when the theme of last night's RNC was "Service: The Courage and Service of John McCain"?  Really? That's the best they could come up with?  

Freddie of Hollywood hit all the expected points, calling unvetted and scandal-ridden Vice President Sarah Palin a "breath of fresh air."  Honestly, scandals and lack of transparency?  Sounds like just more of the Bush administration, but maybe that's just me.  There were two things that caught my attention, though.  One was a really inappropriate slam against Biden: 

Some Washington pundits and media big shots are in a frenzy over the selection of a woman who has actually governed rather than just talked a good game on the Sunday talk shows and hit the Washington cocktail circuit. Well, give me a tough Alaskan Governor who has taken on the political establishment in the largest state in the Union - and won - over the beltway business-as-usual crowd any day of the week.

Does that sound to you like Thompson is suggesting that Biden is a DC Partier?  Biden, the man, who by all account, takes the train to and from DC to Delaware to be with his family each night?  You stay classy, Fred.  Besides, we all know what an "outsider" Palin is turning out to be. 

But with the convention theme centering around John McCain's service, it was inevitable that McCain's time as a POW would be discussed, in painstaking detail.  But Fred let something slip, perhaps unintentionally, that I think Dems should run with:  (h/t Mark Nickolas)

Now, being a POW certainly doesn't qualify anyone to be President.

But it does reveal character.

Um...wasn't that pretty much EXACTLY what the GOP went after Wes Clark for saying?

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Plus what about all the things mccain has done that show his bad character. The kind of left out affairs, divorce, ketting 5 changing just about ever stance he's taken to panedr to the right for this election etc.

I am not watching the Republicans but you have to give them credit. Friday many were speaking honestly regarding the poor choice of V.P. and my Monday they were back on the train making Palin sound better than anyone. Amazing ! I guess they took off their "American" hats and put back on their "Rublican" hats!

Tells me not many can think for themselves. The one thing I can do is see when someone will not work regardless of party leanings.

It IS exactly what Wes Clark said, almost word for word. I also think it's funny that F o H referred to Alaska as the largest state in the union, for a couple of reasons. If Alaska were a city instead of a state, it'd be the 19th or 20th most populous city, with about as many inhabitants as Memphis, TN or Charlotte, NC. Also, there was a joke going around at one time about some Texan bragging that Texas was the largest state; somebody said, "What about Alaska?" The Texan replied, "Hell, if you thawed it out it wouldn't be no bigger than New Jersey."

Fred never fails to disappoint....talk about a guy who needs a script!

The Reptilian hypocrisy is palpable.

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Thompson: "I stand here tonight to endorse the only man in the Republican party older and crazier than I am."

I watched a small portion of the retarded convention. A friend of mine told me if I got a chance to look when they panned the cameras around the hall. When they panned the hall at the Dems convention you saw all types of people, black , white, brown, people of mideastern decent chinese all different types of people.
When the cameras panned at the retarded convention all you could see were old white men and women, I will admit that I did not watch much of it but when they panned I did not see one black face, not one brown face, very few young people, mostly old white people with gray hair. No wonder the party is falling apart. It's run by people that speen all their time lying and trying to make other people look bad. Pay attention you will see that the GOP is nothing but the party of greed, ignorance, selfishness, a total lack of morality, the party looks like a bunch of rich white fools. Vote republican if you hate America!

She's creationist, dominionist, secessionist, and a red herring to make forget about the old man on top of the ticket and where he stands (or the zealots tell him to stand) on the issues. Enough said.

um,, being a POW doesn't reveal character, it just reveals that you were unfortunate.

You should have given a warning with the link........."Dems should run with it." I know, I know, the National Review link was right below it, but WHO KNEW.

I find it offensive to get suckered into going to any right wing related site. THANKS A LOT..........

I caught the POW part of Hollywood Fred's speech on C-SPAN this morning. I don't know which was worse - the dramatic... Kirk-like... pausing... that Freddy used to tell Grandpa's POW story, or the cuts to crowd members tearing up and sniffling while he spoke... so... dramatically.

In retrospect, it makes sense - when you're going to tell THE GREATEST POW STORY EVERY TOLD, be sure to use the dude who sank the entire Soviet naval fleet in the that movie with James Earl Jones. He's a very good storyteller. You can tell he's had actin' lessons...

What a farce.

Freddy is true comedy.

McSame/Failin 2008 B.C.

Didn't freddy-boy get a bruise on his forehead when he fell asleep at his mike?

What's all the hubbub...??

Sorry, Freddie, but you got that meme wrong too. Being a POW doesn't confirm character, because it isn't a voluntary act. It's one's behavior while a POW that confirms character. As I understand it, McCain had some serious issues in that regard.

Wasn't fred thompson only in the senate 6-7 years before he was running for the presidency (okay loping/ambling)?

Before that he was an actor?

Do these people think that if they just close their eyes, wish hard enough, and tap their heels together they pull the country all the way back to the days of prohibition and chastity and smoke-belching factories their daddy owned??

Kurt Vonnegut was a POW also. He went on to point out the horrors of war instead of looking for more war. Judgement ?


It IS exactly what Wes Clark said, almost word for word. I also think it’s funny that F o H referred to Alaska as the largest state in the union, for a couple of reasons. If Alaska were a city instead of a state, it’d be the 19th or 20th most populous city, with about as many inhabitants as Memphis, TN or Charlotte, NC. Also, there was a joke going around at one time about some Texan bragging that Texas was the largest state; somebody said, “What about Alaska?” The Texan replied, “Hell, if you thawed it out it wouldn’t be no bigger than New Jersey.”

Monmouth COUNTY in New Jersey has almost as many people living in it than there are in Alaska.

I just had some nightmarish thoughts:

1. Republicans....service to your country, service to something higher than oneself
2. Sarah Palin....commander-in-chief of the Alaskan national guard
3. Military very depleted
4. Build up of U.S. aircraft carriers in Gulf Region
5. Cheney is in Azerbaijan this morning
6. Alaska is close to Russia

Where the hell are we going to get enough troops to attack Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and, what the heck, let's throw in Syria???

Start a military draft, put Palin in charge of the military, attack Iran, sneak into Russia through the back door, and maybe not all in that order.

We're doomed.

My contempt grew at the blatant war mongering I watched just short of sacrificing Bristol's baby live then stoning Bristol like the old bible calls for.
The Navy Seal story was the most vomit inducing moment I watched. The guy followed orders unquestionably and showed humanity by throwing himself on a grenade to save his buddies. No mention of the illegal, immoral,corporate profit driven ( blood money,they used to call it) war and the murder of millions of innocent civilians from the business end of the republician war machine. How many innocents are enough to these scum, who are lead by a baby murdering war criminal who dropped bombs againest people armed with rifles and other small arms. Quite a MAN, wait till you hear his BS on the sanctity of human life. Get out the barf bags.

If freddy-boy was the party's nominee here's his vp pick:

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0706/droopy_dog.jpg

Fred has those senior moments sometimes. Palin governed the largest State in the Union next will hear Sarah was the first person on the moon. This is really getting silly for such a serious matter.

Everyone on Morning Joe agrees that Thompson's speech was great!? And everyone also sounds desparate to make the repugs out to be something they are not. Even Chuck Todd. Just whose side is he on anyway. Sometimes it is hard to tell. And Harold Ford, just what are his qualifications to be on TV every day? When did he become such an expert? Mika especially got bit by the giggle bug this morning. Sometimes she does a good job but not when Joe is there; then she is like a school girl fawning over the HS football hero. They all are in love with Palin. They think she is the salvation of the repug party. Time will tell. But unless she trips up tonight everybody will be talking tomorrow about what a wonderful person she is, what a wonderful speech, and she is the girl!!!

21 General Jack D. Ripper

Where the hell are we going to get enough troops to attack Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and, what the heck, let’s throw in Syria???

__________________________________________________________

They'll send Civil War Recreationists to Georgia

And Brownie troops to the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcNqoPAlGk8

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

I didn't watch any of this stuff last night so I have a question. Did one of the speakers actually say that Palin could not only shoot and kill a moose but that she could field dress it too? I heard this said on Morning Joe, but I don't know if they were kidding about someone saying it or not.

“Now being a POW certainly doesn’t qualify anyone to be President.

But it does reveal character.

This is the kind of character that civilizations from the beginning of history have sought in their leaders.”

Ahhhh--- So that’s what we’re doing in Guantanamo, and all those CIA Black Ops prisons. That’s what we were doing at Abu Ghraib. We’re building the great future leadership of the evil-doers.

This really will be the war without end.......

Fred's speech was definitely well constructed -- first creating simpathy for the main character (JMc) and then making an argument for him to be the "hero" that will save America.

I definitely had a lot of simpathy for McCain after the speech... however, it actually made me more concerned about his judgement. I think he is a more fragile individual than I first thought. He's an old warrior, broken and battered and no longer able to take the battlefield or direct it.

The fact that he selected "Bristol Baby Grandmama" as VP is evidence of his poor judgement.

The Fundies should read thier own Bibles in casting their lots with these "leaders":

1 Timothy 3:1-7 (King James Version)

1 Timothy 3

1This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife [opps, there goes McCain] vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre [opps, there goes Romney]; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;[OPPS THERE GOES GRANDMAMA PALIN]

5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) [OPPS THERE GOES GRANDMAMA PALIN]

6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. [OPPS THERE GOES GRANDMAMA PALIN]

7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

ysbaddaden @ 17:

Wasn't fred thompson only in the senate 6-7 years before he was running for the presidency (okay loping/ambling)?

Before that he was an actor?

Actually, it was Senate, then acting, then running with spectacular unsuccess for the presidency.
But what nerve. Here's Sen. Biden, taking the train home EVERY NIGHT to see his kids, as opposed to Sarah Palin, willing to abandon her infant son with Down syndrome and pregnant teen daughter who desperately needs her (the baby daddy doesn't seem very responsible or stable) to campaign for the veep slot. Thompson is in the GOP mold, lying about Biden and expecting the rest of us to buy his lies. And the true believers are only too willing to be hoodwinked by their disintegrating party by frauds like "I was a POW!" McSame and "I am a great mother!" (not) Palin.

As to whether Thompson is suggesting that Biden is a drinker (which is what your headline seems to say) by referring to the "cocktail circuit," no, that comment does not suggest that. "Cocktails" may sound sinful to some, but I don't think it carries the connotations you're drawing from it, particularly when we're talking about a "circuit," i.e., Georgetown. which emphasizes talk, chatter, blather.

If you mean, on the other hand, that Thompson's scriptwriters are suggesting that Biden is an effete liberal who talks ad nauseam, then you're closer. That's the line they've been using against Obama, with the added detail that Biden is obviously someone fond of talking who comes off as a lightweight in some cases. Part of it is true--Biden is a talker, he is gaffe-prone and he is comfortable within the political establishment--while the rest is false.

Why worry about the difference? Because you need to deal with the attacks the other side is making, not the ones you're afraid they are making or might make or someone listening to Fred Thompson might think that they are making or. . . .

Also, can we retire the "You stay classy" line? Maybe it's my own fault for reading too many blog entries about the McCain campaign, but I think this one has been killed off by overuse, both in terms of absolute volume and by being applied to small potatoes comments from the other side that just don't merit the mild outrage/annoyance that the phrase is supposed to convey. We're going to see a lot worse in the next few months (Eskew's on board, after all) so let's not tire ourselves out worrying about this sort of chickensh*t convention talk.

I really enjoyed Thompson saying Obama was the most inexperienced candidate for president in history. Does he KNOW that's a complete lie? Does he even care that he's deliberately lying? Oh, wait, this is the GOP where lies are facts and facts are lies!

Run these people out of town in November!

Question for the RNC:
WHERE ARE THE ISSUES?!

I'll I've heard so far is a bunch of bloviating about the rights of the unborn and fish tales about heroism and "experience". Where is the economy? Where is foreign policy? Where are their plans for health care, education, and the environment? The most surprising absence is energy policy, since they've been cramming the whole drill here/drill now BS down our throats all summer long.

Looks like the C&L thread yesterday was right. After spending the summer floating trial balloons on foreign policy, energy, and the economy, and having them shot down, the GOP has gone back to the same old strategy of personal politics.

Remember how the MSM was screaming bloody murder about the lack of detail on the issues during the DNC? Let's all hold our breath and wait for the gasps of horror that I'm suuuuure will come this week.

I just googled the story about feild dressing a moose and Thompson said this:

"And I can say without fear of contradiction that she is the only nominee in the history of either party who knows how to properly field dress a moose ... with the possible exception of Teddy Roosevelt," Mr. Thompson told the delighted delegates."

Now that's what we all look for in a future possible presidential candidate, isn't it?

The extremely boring celebrity Senator from the black lagoon speaking up for another sorry Republican old white man who helped put this Nation in its present shitty state. What sad group of corpses.

Here's the guy in charge of freddie-boy's white house run.

He's the one in the closet.

Not sure who the guy in the hat is

Probably darth chaney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNDaifCMAdI&feature=related

God sent The 72 phlegms during Fred's speach! Praise Jesus!

Freddie Thompson's career is now in the commode. He did his measured best to attempt to put lipstick on a pig and it didn't work. All of those phlegm clearings were indicative of an individual about to vomit. He damn near choked on his words. These grown men who supposedly once had a brain have to be ashamed of themselves - for pimping themselves and turning into male prostitutes to make John McCain's faux pas of selecting the least qualified individual as his running mate look like something wholesome. Do they realize that their personal credibility is over now? At least Bush didn't pander and attempt to polish a turd. Clearly, the rift between Bush and McCain has widened and Bush has the sense (what does he care now anyway?) to diss Palin completely when asked about her. In that sense, he makes McCain look like an even larger moron.

This is "political theatre" at it's finest. If I were someone whose paycheck depended on my personal credibility as a newscaster or journalist right now, I'd be walking on eggs with the toxicity of the Palin story. I'd be attempting to distance myself from the contagion of the McCain/Palin ticket.

Middle america is listening and watching and, more importantly, "judging" to see precisely who has a backbone in our media any longer. Soon they'll all be labeled as prostitutes if they continue to lie through their teeth.

Your damn right, they're scared of the probability that this uneducated, inexperienced mother who uses her children to boost her own credibility and notoriety will take the helm of this republic. And well they should be. They're already "complicit co-conspirators" in the lies leading up to Iraq and for "misleading the public" (can't wait for those trials brought on by the people!). Do any of these "quasi-journalists" need to now add "selling their soul to the devil" to their resume? I guess if they did, they would be quite in synchrony with Sarah Palin. Secession from the Union? How shameful can she get? Parading her preggo daughter before the media to be torn by the wolves?? Is this what we consider good parenting? If so, we've fallen farther down the rabbit hole than we can imagine in our wildest of nightmares.

No mention that McCain violated the "Code of Conduct" by giving more than his name , rank and serial number and also confessed to being a "war criminal"!

pissed off patricia @ 28:

I didn't watch any of this stuff last night so I have a question. Did one of the speakers actually say that Palin could not only shoot and kill a moose but that she could field dress it too? I heard this said on Morning Joe, but I don't know if they were kidding about someone saying it or not.

Yeah, that's what we want in our leaders....Kill, kill, kill! Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!!!

When, where, and how can I get my gun licenses!!!!

" I'm not an actor, but I pretend to play one on television".

Jake @ 27:

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

what´s not to love... he voted against the 4th ammendment on fisa and sold us out to the telecoms, voted for the patriot act, which basicly criminalizes decent, as we have seen at both conventions, hasn´t said a word about the broken e-voting machines, is going on bill oy-really´s show and legitimizing that putz, talking like a drunk cowboy at aipac and vfw, wants to escalate in afganistan, etc, etc, etc.... what´s not to like?

I have this gnawing in the pit of my stomach that the Palin gambit may just checkmate the Democrats this November. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/09/sugar-and-spice-and-everything-nice.html

james Ratliff @ 8:

I watched a small portion of the retarded convention. A friend of mine told me if I got a chance to look when they panned the cameras around the hall. When they panned the hall at the Dems convention you saw all types of people, black , white, brown, people of mideastern decent chinese all different types of people.
When the cameras panned at the retarded convention all you could see were old white men and women, I will admit that I did not watch much of it but when they panned I did not see one black face, not one brown face, very few young people, mostly old white people with gray hair. No wonder the party is falling apart. It's run by people that speen all their time lying and trying to make other people look bad. Pay attention you will see that the GOP is nothing but the party of greed, ignorance, selfishness, a total lack of morality, the party looks like a bunch of rich white fools. Vote republican if you hate America!

All very true. Their party will die out with these elderly white people. Even if--God forbid--we lose this election, the GOP victory will be very short-lived. Within 20 years, Dems will so outnumber repubs that it will almost be embarrassing.

The Best Fucking News Team Ever - Hurricane Gustav Relief

While the Republican leadership races to the Gulf Coast to show their empathy, their delegates are left abandoned in the Xcel Center.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=183780&title=the-b...

When does Vice Presidential candidate Harriet Myers speak? Be sure you wear your ear plugs or at the very least turn down the volume on your TV, that voice can't be good for the ear drums.

Anais @ 31:

ysbaddaden @ 17:

Wasn't fred thompson only in the senate 6-7 years before he was running for the presidency (okay loping/ambling)?

Before that he was an actor?

Actually, it was Senate, then acting, then running with spectacular unsuccess for the presidency.
But what nerve. Here's Sen. Biden, taking the train home EVERY NIGHT to see his kids, as opposed to Sarah Palin, willing to abandon her infant son with Down syndrome and pregnant teen daughter who desperately needs her (the baby daddy doesn't seem very responsible or stable) to campaign for the veep slot. Thompson is in the GOP mold, lying about Biden and expecting the rest of us to buy his lies. And the true believers are only too willing to be hoodwinked by their disintegrating party by frauds like "I was a POW!" McSame and "I am a great mother!" (not) Palin.

There goes Freddie's cred in one fell swoop! I actually do hope that McCain, in his lack of judgment but height of audacity and ego keeps Palin on the ticket. It's doing more harm than good and by the time more slime comes out about how she's governed and was almost recalled (for what one might ask?), McCain's numbers will plummet rapidly.

As for her parenting ability and motherhood skills, they suck - in a nutshell. Using her children as political "props" and ditching a mongoloid child is an appalling sense of abuse in my estimation. We know that there's no way she can accomplish both - and I believe that her choice for motherhood (of 5 no less and another on the way) should indicate her priority or "choice" as it were. There is absolutely NO WAY I'd ever hire this woman to run my business with a suckling infant on her breast, especially one with "special needs". Are you kidding me?

Fred Dalton Thompson and John Sydney McCain, outta touch fancy boys.

Why did they choose Thompson and Lieberman to be speakers? They have much better speakers who are more well known. Why these two? Everybody breathing knew these two would be snoozers last night. Is the Republican convention trying to turn people away from their speeches because they know they have nothing to say?

You know that tonight if Palin doesn't pass out or something, her speech will be talked about tomorrow as being one of the best speeches of the convention. And it probably will be, but compared to what, the most boring speeches in the universe?

Henry @ 32:

As to whether Thompson is suggesting that Biden is a drinker (which is what your headline seems to say) by referring to the "cocktail circuit," no, that comment does not suggest that. "Cocktails" may sound sinful to some, but I don't think it carries the connotations you're drawing from it, particularly when we're talking about a "circuit," i.e., Georgetown. which emphasizes talk, chatter, blather.

If you mean, on the other hand, that Thompson's scriptwriters are suggesting that Biden is an effete liberal who talks ad nauseam, then you're closer. That's the line they've been using against Obama, with the added detail that Biden is obviously someone fond of talking who comes off as a lightweight in some cases. Part of it is true--Biden is a talker, he is gaffe-prone and he is comfortable within the political establishment--while the rest is false.

Why worry about the difference? Because you need to deal with the attacks the other side is making, not the ones you're afraid they are making or might make or someone listening to Fred Thompson might think that they are making or. . . .

Also, can we retire the "You stay classy" line? Maybe it's my own fault for reading too many blog entries about the McCain campaign, but I think this one has been killed off by overuse, both in terms of absolute volume and by being applied to small potatoes comments from the other side that just don't merit the mild outrage/annoyance that the phrase is supposed to convey. We're going to see a lot worse in the next few months (Eskew's on board, after all) so let's not tire ourselves out worrying about this sort of chickensh*t convention talk.

I'm glad I didn't watch Thompson. He makes me sick.
But he's implying Biden is a drinker, using referring to the "cocktail circuit?"
Well, Republicans, here's to "Hookers and Blow!"

The fact that Keith Olberman pointed out the "phlegm" count, and the fact that Ms. Belle found it worthy of mention in her latest "report", stands as perfect proof of how immature and idiotic the Left is in this country.

/facepalm

Jake @ 27:

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

And where the fuck have you been these last eight miserable years? Did Dubya thank your stupid ass yesterday for allowing him to exorcise his hatred for his parents, family, minorities, foreigners, laws, civil/human rights, the Nation's reputation, all while murdering and pillaging from the innocent and helpless all over the God Damn world? If anyone's been "hoodwinked" it's been you, dumbfuck.

I assume the audience was wearing their 'purple heart' bandaids ? No? Why not? They seemed awfully fond of them last time around. Wonder how some of those bloated idiots would feel about such displays now that they're backing the POW candidate? It's all relative when you're a reslug.

liberAL @ 25:

Everyone on Morning Joe agrees that Thompson's speech was great!? And everyone also sounds desparate to make the repugs out to be something they are not. Even Chuck Todd. Just whose side is he on anyway. Sometimes it is hard to tell. And Harold Ford, just what are his qualifications to be on TV every day? When did he become such an expert? Mika especially got bit by the giggle bug this morning. Sometimes she does a good job but not when Joe is there; then she is like a school girl fawning over the HS football hero. They all are in love with Palin. They think she is the salvation of the repug party. Time will tell. But unless she trips up tonight everybody will be talking tomorrow about what a wonderful person she is, what a wonderful speech, and she is the girl!!!

they don't get it.

Radically Moderate @ 42:

" I'm not an actor, but I pretend to play one on television".

Ahnuld, Thompson, Reagan....all the Republican hollywood actors are "B" actors, they're failures in that arena too. they only thing Republicans are really good at is running the country into the ground to enrich their own coffers and those of their well connected cronies.

I have donated a lot of old clothes to the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Ears). I recycle. I have organized a safe trick or treating party for my kids and her friends during Halloween 2 years in a row. So I guess I am qualified to be commander-in-chief.

If McCain wasn't a POW what would they have to talk about?

Irony is:

Fred Thompson, whose national-level political experience consists of being counsel to Nixon during Watergate and a term and a half in the Senate before leaving politics to be a pretend DA on TV, who clearly thought that those experiences qualified HIM to be president, saying that the "celebrity" candidate, Barack Obama, is unqualified for the job.

These guys...you can't make this crap up.

Noel B. @ 57:

I have donated a lot of old clothes to the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Ears). I recycle. I have organized a safe trick or treating party for my kids and her friends during Halloween 2 years in a row. So I guess I am qualified to be commander-in-chief.

Hell, you're overqualified.

I didn't realize that Little Mac and Big Mac were such bad acting military men with lots of demerits. Must be that old maverick spirit.
Thanks Fred the actor.

Pinch me....I must be hallucinating - how any intelligent, educated american can even be having this conversation indicates how trivialized we've made our election process. This has to be some sick joke taking place here. And to see grown men defending an almost-beauty queen who is governing less people than that of the Mayor of Austin, Texas is an unbelievable head scratcher. Then to watch the lockstep fascist media attempt to put lipstick on this pig is even more incredible. Any young person watching this will be driven to the Democratic party just by mere observation.

The larger picture here is that, in McSame's estimation, this is "the best it gets" for the Republicans. This is the more telling aspect of what's taking place. This means that Guiliani, Romney, Thompson, et al are definitely NOT QUALIFIED to even be Vice President - certainly not qualified to be President so they'd better ditch any future plans for politics right here and now. That is, if they believe what they're saying. Of course, being typical Repukes, we know that "if their lips are moving, they're lying" so they will be hoist on their own pitard. Can't have it both ways, boys!

I think it's also telling that McCain feels that a l year governor - whose governorship is roughly the size of Austin, Texas (now that certainly qualifies as Podunkville) is more qualified than any of his colleagues in Congress......and surely any member of the current administration. Maybe he's a maver-dick after all? Maybe he's sending a clear signal to americans that THERE IS NO ONE EVEN REMOTELY AS QUALIFIED AS PALIN IN HIS ENTIRE PARTY.

I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE MAVERICK MC SAME AT HIS WORD THIS TIME BECAUSE THE IMPLICATIONS AND RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT HE IS SAYING WILL REACH IT'S TENACLES DEEPLY INTO THE GOP BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE. And, we can be certain now that this level of toxicity will permeate the Republican brand for decades to come.

Rand @ 52:

The fact that Keith Olberman pointed out the "phlegm" count, and the fact that Ms. Belle found it worthy of mention in her latest "report", stands as perfect proof of how immature and idiotic the Left is in this country.

/facepalm

Would you be implying, perchance, that the loony reichwing actually believes the lies they are spewing? Why do you think an actor like Thompson would be sending mixed signals by clearing his throat? Come on now, you couldn't possibly be born under the same rock in Alaska now, could you?

ALASKA, THE WILD FRONTIER - with a population about the size of Austin, Texas. You've got to be kidding, folks! I don't call this governing - I call this Mayoring.

One thing we should be thankful for is when mcshame is sent to pasture in November we won't have to listen to any more POW and HERO stories! Don't foresee anyone else in the future with those "credentials." Anyway not in my lifetime.

Why can't msnbc put a host on a morning show that does not try to be Fox? If you listen to the conversations on Morning Joe and on Fox there is little and sometimes, no difference. Why not take a chance and see if their morning viewers would like something different, something a little smarter. When both host and hostess say they love Sarah and Biden, WTF watch them?

Wonder what new Palin scandal will surface today? (**rubbing hands**) At least this makes it all exciting in a salacious way. But then again, how can one feel sorry that Palin has chosen to pimp her own family and then cry foul when the people do their own detective work? Cry sexist anyone? This only takes the women's rights movement back a century to do so. This woman is in way over her head but let's all hope and pray that she's too ignorant to realize it and stays in the race. Her rep is tanking the GOP and they know it. I'd love to be a fly on the wall behind the closed doors of the GOP right now.

What did they decide to do with permitting Ron Paul to speak? What about his 1400 delegates? They have every right to be represented at this convention. Nice try thinking that the hurricane would permit them to suspend the rules....nice try. The Ron Paul contingent is certain to embarrass.

Left&Left @ 53:

Jake @ 27:

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

And where the fuck have you been these last eight miserable years? Did Dubya thank your stupid ass yesterday for allowing him to exorcise his hatred for his parents, family, minorities, foreigners, laws, civil/human rights, the Nation's reputation, all while murdering and pillaging from the innocent and helpless all over the God Damn world? If anyone's been "hoodwinked" it's been you, dumbfuck.

Exactly, you are proving my point. Ignorance can always be "hoodwinked". Keep drinking the Koolaid. Far Left Liberal Loser.

Carbama '08

I took Thompson's comment about Washington cocktail parties and Sunday talk circuits as meant to compare Palin with Hillary Clinton. But no matter, generic Dems will do. What, Republicans have been known to attend cocktail parties too, not to mention regularly be given the entire hour of Meet the Press to spew brainwashing misinformation on Iraq? I suspect Thompson's trip-up won't be the reason the GOP will be loath to let Palin do the talk shows.

Just love the screen-saver flag waving eternally in the backdrop. Well, okay, I don't and it isn't nearly as well-done as the perpetual flags from 2004. The speakers still are champion slow-talkers, making the compulsory halt after every single sentence to prod applause. Boy, these are going to be a long two days, with no Zel Miller in sight.

pissed off patricia @ 66:

Why can't msnbc put a host on a morning show that does not try to be Fox? If you listen to the conversations on Morning Joe and on Fox there is little and sometimes, no difference. Why not take a chance and see if their morning viewers would like something different, something a little smarter. When both host and hostess say they love Sarah and Biden, WTF watch them?

The state of american journalism today is the principle of "the dumbing down of america". Since they feel us to be incapable of formulating our own opinions, they've adopted Goebel's philosophy - "he who controls the message controls the people". What they fail to realize is that fewer people are watching their drivel these days and, essentially, their attempt to spew a disinformation campaign has only enhanced the need for people to do their own homework about the facts. Once you know the facts and then listen to these true "bobbleheads", then you know it's nothing more than fascist propaganda. Tune out, folks. It's bad for your health.

Jake @ 68:

Left&Left @ 53:

Jake @ 27:

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

And where the fuck have you been these last eight miserable years? Did Dubya thank your stupid ass yesterday for allowing him to exorcise his hatred for his parents, family, minorities, foreigners, laws, civil/human rights, the Nation's reputation, all while murdering and pillaging from the innocent and helpless all over the God Damn world? If anyone's been "hoodwinked" it's been you, dumbfuck.

Exactly, you are proving my point. Ignorance can always be "hoodwinked". Keep drinking the Koolaid. Far Left Liberal Loser.

Carbama '08

Jake, Troll - what happened?? Did you get booted again from Think Progress? You should be smart enough to realize that you need to change your screen name if you begin trolling other threads. Same ole/same ole.

This troll is the laughingstock of all threads. He lives at home in a corner of the basement with his mommy and has nothing better to do with his life than to sit on blogs all day playing devil's advocate. Sad fact is that he doesn't even have a modicum of intelligent repartee to deliver so he consistently makes a buffoon of himself.

Hey Jake - at least be creative and change your name. Don't feed this troll. He's certifiably insane.

Jake is a bigot, this we can witness from his inarticulate spew. He's also a mysogenist - and you can figure out why quite easily. Just a little biographical info on this troll.

sophya @ 72:

Jake is a bigot, this we can witness from his inarticulate spew. He's also a mysogenist - and you can figure out why quite easily. Just a little biographical info on this troll.

At least he got smart enough to ditch the long lines of caps and symbols. Now that was a dead giveaway and nailed him every time. Just view this troll is sheer comic relief (or tragedy, as the case may be) and don't give him the time of day. He's a power freak because he has little power over his own life.

Ah, the dark, dank, necrotic swelter of the basement has once again made our little troll mute. Such easy prey. Later, buddies!

barkin @ 43:

Jake @ 27:

It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.

Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!

what´s not to love... he voted against the 4th ammendment on fisa and sold us out to the telecoms, voted for the patriot act, which basicly criminalizes decent, as we have seen at both conventions, hasn´t said a word about the broken e-voting machines, is going on bill oy-really´s show and legitimizing that putz, talking like a drunk cowboy at aipac and vfw, wants to escalate in afganistan, etc, etc, etc.... what´s not to like?

Carbama '08 must go on O'Reilly's show. It has intelligent voters watching, contrary to your MSNBC joke of a station. If Carbama '08 wins, Olbermans show will be canceled. I guarantee he hopes McCain wins. It's good for HIS ratings.

sophya@62,

I'm concerned that the choice of palin suggests that the ruling party doesn't really give a damn any more. They've all but given up pretending that the election process is still relevant. He who owns the voting machines, wins.

There are some suggesting that she will drop out, this is the strategy, and her replacement is the real vp. The party using the whole mess to garner a sympathy vote and make the next vp look good by comparison.

sophya @ 71:

Jake @ 68:

Left&Left @ 53:

Jake @ 27:

And where the fuck have you been these last eight miserable years? Did Dubya thank your stupid ass yesterday for allowing him to exorcise his hatred for his parents, family, minorities, foreigners, laws, civil/human rights, the Nation's reputation, all while murdering and pillaging from the innocent and helpless all over the God Damn world? If anyone's been "hoodwinked" it's been you, dumbfuck.

Exactly, you are proving my point. Ignorance can always be "hoodwinked". Keep drinking the Koolaid. Far Left Liberal Loser.

Carbama '08

Jake, Troll - what happened?? Did you get booted again from Think Progress? You should be smart enough to realize that you need to change your screen name if you begin trolling other threads. Same ole/same ole.

This troll is the laughingstock of all threads. He lives at home in a corner of the basement with his mommy and has nothing better to do with his life than to sit on blogs all day playing devil's advocate. Sad fact is that he doesn't even have a modicum of intelligent repartee to deliver so he consistently makes a buffoon of himself.

Hey Jake - at least be creative and change your name. Don't feed this troll. He's certifiably insane.

Please quote my presence in another site. Any site? Please, because you may have me mixed up with someone else.

What's funny about the "Troll" comment, what are you?

Ruthless People @ 47:

When does Vice Presidential candidate Harriet Myers speak? Be sure you wear your ear plugs or at the very least turn down the volume on your TV, that voice can't be good for the ear drums.

Harriet Meirs is now a paid Lobbyist for the Pakistan government.