Hillary Clinton in Florida: No way, No McCain, No Palin!
By John Amato Sunday Sep 07, 2008 1:59pm
Hillary Clinton was down in Florida country stumping for Obama. She made the strong case that Obama/Biden need to lead this country. plain and simple.
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Hillary: 'I don't think the choice could be any clearer....
If we want to restore American leadership. If we want to restore the American standard of living. If we want to tackle the myriad of challenges facing this country---then slightly amend my comments from Denver. No way, no McCain, no Palin!
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Wasn't she the one that said McCain is a fine fellow and ready to be Commander in Chief on day one, but that Obama wasn't?
Just asking.
I wonder what John Arovosis has to say about this. Probably his usual "just go away" comment. Anti Hillary people make no sense. They want her to go away but when the chips are down then it's "Oh my God!" we need her.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 2:
That was when she had a chance, to get the nomination. After retrospect, she was wrong however seeing as McCain's whole campaign depends on theft, POW, the Crazy Christian C*nt and smear.
Clinton's seen the light and I want to see her rip Palin limb from limb (Figuratively speaking)
Because I'm from a red state, I received a solicitation for a donation from the McCain campaign and sent it back, "no way, no how, no McCain." At least they had to spend a few cents to get the message from me.
[Deleted. Amato doesn't stomp on anything around here. I do. And your posts have to go through me before they hit the board, Toronto George-Sitemonitor]
Bud @ 3:
It is nice to see her get back on track after all that messy campaign stuff.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 2:
we need the exact quote but your correct she did use that strategy....it's an easy strategy and target.....
looks like it didn't work..so NOT everything hillary says is correct.
i would like to ask hillary if palin is ready to be commander in chief in a mccain presidency scenario
were he is unable to serve as soon as let's say March/09? what do think is she ready now heart beat away?
Jusker @ 5:
Did you attach the envelope to a cement block first?
That ought to show Half-Baked Alaska and little nobody Palin that she won't be getting any Clinton votes for Grand-Pa.
It's about time!!!! Thank you Hillary.
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Why do Democrats insist on playing "Follow the Leader" when they should be insisting on "Following the Rule of Law"?
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No high roads from now on. Attack, stay on the attack and take no prisoners.
Otherwise we have just given the next 2-3 Supremes to James Dobson. End of story.
Jusker @ 5:
That's good. I read a post from someone who sent back something like 6 pennies. Cost their campaign 75cents. Think is was daily kos.
Been hearing all mornign that HRC wasn't going to attack Palin. While sure I want stronger and tougher (always do), the Oh Look How Our Side Sucks panic button won't help us win.
She (Clinton)should have slammed Palin from day 1(convention)she-palin is a psyco redneck
I'm glad Hillary is so committed to being a team player. I also feel that Obama and Biden need to deal with Palin directly as well and not merely through proxies.
Though they might be concerned that the perception will be that they're picking on the female candidate, they need to address Palin's unsuitability for VP in a manner that shows they are applying standards fairly and consistently (something totally missing from the gopper narrative).
Who cares what the washout has to say about anything. With the ousting of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews this country has made a nice statement that it's had enough of the fringe lunatics of the left.
Bud @ 3:
So, is she a committed Democrat or not? Would she rather have a democrat for President or republican as she tries to get universal healthcare, I mean that is what she wants right?
I suspect the big news story coming out of this will be "Bill Clinton still refuses to campaign for Obama."
Every time Hillary speaks it just makes it clearer & clearer that wrong person is is running. And after BO loses it will be crystal. Get ready for reality...for it's a commin'.
Need to get the heavy hitters out there like Clinton and Gore full time....hit them on women's issues, hit them on the environment, hit them on how bad the economy is now, hit them on the going to war in Iraq in the first place issue, the issue that got us into the mess we have been in. Bush got us into that war, and ever since he did, we have taken our eyes off of Afghanistan; we have taken out eyes off of the economy.
Now McCain has suceeded in getting the attention on Palin....first thing I saw in the upper right hand corner of Yahoo News this morning was an ABC video of Sarah Palin and her fashion statement....her eyeglasses. Jesus H. Christ. Is that what the Republicans want? It's like Bush said after 9-11, go shopping, go on vacation, and now that "left wing media bias" has people talking about Palin's eyeglasses. Give me a break.
McCain will get us into another war sooner or later, if Bush doesn't attack Iran before he leaves office....I just saw a RAWSTORY article about "Iran nuclear reactor launch irreversible before February." I'll bet $100 Bush attacks.
Bud @ 3:
different argument.....the RED team would like your simple approach to explaining this issue.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 2:
I wasn't a Hillary supporter during the primaries, but I'll say this: many of my friends were--and Hillary supporters are smart. They know policy because their candidate encouraged them to know policy. They have their priorities, they know why, and they can articulate them. (And they encouraged many Obama supporters to become more eloquent as the campaign went along.)
Hillary supporters have, in my experience, *never* been fooled by what Palin represents. Palin's world-view is 180 degrees opposed to Sen. Clinton's. Hillary supporters know what's at stake--their well-being and that of their families. There was never a real play being made for their support by McCain--that was all McCain campaign-fueled media intrigue. It was always about shoring up his base.
If the media ever really starts asking Palin questions, she's toast among Independents. Will they? That's all I wonder.
Lethalstorm @ 16:
And we, reich-wing lunatic, don't care what YOU have to say about anything.
I imagine when Palin brought up Hillary's name in that first or second address she made, it got Hillary pissed. It sure as hell should have.
Hillary worked her way up the ladder, Palin just simply got a boost up the ladder from McCain's campaign and we wise ass way of speaking.
I'm telling you, my 80 year old female neighbor across the street, who has had three strokes, is smarter and more able to make informed wise decisions than Palin will ever be.
We need to paint Palin as as a dangerous extremist
Scare the voters.. remember the terror alerts?.
She wants to outlaw ALL abortion even in the case of rape and incest. She doesn't believe in global warming and supports big oil.
The Iraq war is a mission from God and on and on and.....
Use fear just like the Repugs did.,..The inexperience card won't work unless she makes major gaffes.
shaggles @ 18:
Not so. They're meeting on Thursday. Read in it the WaPo this a.m.
By not selecting Hillary for VP, the republicans seized the rare opportunity of vulnerability and appointed Palin. Now we have to waste all of our time and money attacking her. This all could have been avoided. The Hillary/Palin VP debate would have been the highest rated show on tv. But alas, ego. Nevertheless, Clinton on the stump is a great help.
Jack @ 19:
Why? Because Hillary is a woman and Barack is black?
Americah, FUCK YEAH!
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 2:
What your point idiot! Look at her words now. People like you are willing to to look at Palins words now and you start falling all over yourselves. All of a sudden McCains a new republican and you willing swallow the shit without nary a gag. Disgusting.
One more thing, she's a traitor and supports a secessionist group.
BigIslandDave @ 23:
Well, I did wonder if "Lethalstorm" was anything like "Operation Chaos"......
Jack @ 19:
You're right: John McCain isn't really a very good candidate. Sad, actually.
Janet @ 30:
yeah...let's hear about that Alaska Independence Party
This is all very nice, but why aren't the Dems pointing out that Palin is a big fat liar? You want a wedge issue that works for our side? Here it is: The Republicans think the American People are too stupid to know when they're being lied too. The Republicans are playing us for suckers. They're laughing at us behind our backs. When it comes to pork, Sarah Palin is Petunia Pig. If you want a president who has contempt for your intelligence then vote for John McCain, because that's what you're going to get.
Simple, no? And if the Republicans complain ask them why Palin claims she's against pork when she actually supported the bridge to nowhere and kept the money appropriated for it after it was shot down.
I have heard that Palin has some unsavory views on race...
I hope that some of her more colorful comments are caught on tape somewhere.
While the Democrats win the argument for my vote hands down. I do think you need some nice AV clips that can help people understand that McCain/Palin is not just wrong on the issues... but that they are a bit screwy in their thinking.
(yawn)
Now and then I think Barack made a mistake not putting Hillary on the ticket with him. I wonder how much the spectre of Big Dog was a factor in his decision.
Mark Groubert @ 27:
It's a chess match. If Obama had chose Clinton, both the press and McCain would have jumped all over her earlier negative comments about him--the press would have run her "gunfire in Bosnia" stuff 24 hrs. a day. And McCain would have picked a different person to shore up the base.
If, if, if...the fact is, our choice is clear. We can either work our asses off to try to secure what the country SHOULD be about, or we can concede defeat. And yes, Clinton on the stump is a great help. We'll take it.
I think a Obama-Clinton ticket wouldn't have worked. The GOP would be hitting Clinton really hard. The only reason they didn't go after her was because they hoped to face her in the general election.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 2:
I think so. but that was before McCain started showing obvious signs of alzheimers. or dementia. and before he nominated Sarah Palin.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
a bitter confused very old combat veteran. and a petty control freak ex beauty queen.
its like voting for Crazy.
Palin is a religious extremist of the worst kind:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_church_Alaska_refuge_for_Armageddon_...
Now the right wing kooks will point out Obama's association with Wright; however, 1)he has denounced Reverend Wright, and even after he did, questions from the right still remain; 2)I don't recall any videos of Obama actually speaking at his church and making comments about how it is 'God's plan to attack Iraq'; 3)Sounds like Palin "grew up" in this church...she's likely much more engrained in their extremist views; 4)The religious right wants to take away rights we already have.
This woman is dangerous.
Where are the other women democrats? Hilary needs to be out there more and be more forceful than this line of No Way, No McCain-Palin-it is weak. Why don't they call McCain/Palin about that small town values and used it against them? Like saying that small town people I know and their values does not involved lying about your opponent to score political points with the uninformed people. Small town people are not liars and it seemed that my opponents are lying all the time about me. Use their own tactics. Enough with being nice. Obviously being nice to your opponent is not working with the American people.
Yet another way to link the Bush admin. to the McCain/Palin ticket: Both parties think the Iraq war was commissioned by God.
Lethalstorm @ 16:
Yeah right. O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage are moderates in your "normal" world.
You go Hillary!! I don't understand how this election can be even close. I haven't heard one thing the repubs will do to fix anything. Completely boggles my mind that anyone except the fringe loonies are even considering mccain.
constituent @ 33:
Don't forget
1. It's ok to teach creationism in school
2. For the bridge to nowhere, actually campaigned on it, until it became politically unpopular
3. Abstinence only education
4. Highest federal ear marks per capita at approx $506 (national average around $52) Also, in 2002 the per capita in wasilla was around $1,000
5. Troopergate
Her religious views, no matter how extreme, won't matter. Because she is of the base.... they approve of that kind of crazy. Hard right Christian extremism, even the kind that attacks the US government and preaches hate, is considered safe on that side of the fence.
Now if her preacher were talking militant stuff about how gay people are OK or war is evil... then you'd have a scandal on your hands.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9620_sarah_palin_se...
WHOA! So now Todd is the Co-Governer?
fuck religion! it makes people stupid.
Lilybelle @ 13:
I always rip up my credit card solicitations, stuff them back in the postage paid envelope, with a short note about the bankruptcy bill, along with a couple of pieces of cardboard. I don't get too many of those anymore.
I just got off lunch but had an interesting conversation with a young lady that was in my office to practice GED. When I noticed she was 18, I asked her if she was registered. She registered when she got her driver's license. After she completed her work, while walking outside, I asked her why she said she was still uncertain who she would vote for president.
She said she was watching the conventions, all of them because her grandparents have been telling her and her cousins that they need to register and vote. When I asked why she was till ambivalent about who she would vote for she said she was leaning toward Obama but was concerned because he was going to raise taxes on the middle class. I reminded her that a study came out and it indicated that this community has the lowest median income of Colorado at $49.500.00. I told her that based on that fact, the only way anyone in this city can start to help themselves is learn first that what she believes that Obama will raise our taxes is a big fat republican lie. I then explained to her how they are trying to make people like her believe in their lies, that Sara Palin started off with a lie as it relates to earmarks and the bridge to nowhere, and that anyone with her surname is not really welcome in the republican party.
After her conversation she said, "Gee! You have explained it like no one ever has to her and you should go to the schools to do that." She promised that she would talk to all her relatives because most of them were thinking like she was until I explained the republican lies.
The republican lie that Obama wants to tax the middle class needs to be confronted whenever it rears its ugly head!
We are being inundated with McCain ads down here in south Florida right now. Today I saw the first McCain/Palin ad. It clearly says she was against the bridge to nowhere. That's just an out and out lie. It's picking words that they want to use without telling the truth.
I'm thinking Palin is the new shiny thing for a lot of republicans who haven't paid much attention to anything since McCain got the nomination. I'm guessing and hoping that her popularity is just a flash in the pan.
For some reason they seem to like a woman who acts like a man. A woman who hunts, kills and guts animals must appeal to some part of our population. I'm not in that part of the population and thank goodness, I don't know anyone who is.
25 Janet says.......We need to paint Palin as as a dangerous extremist
Scare the voters.. remember the terror alerts?.
She wants to outlaw ALL abortion even in the case of rape and incest.......
Incest is probably a way of life for Palin's own family. At least in Europe, studies have shown that Downs Syndrome comes from incest and this genetic abnormality can show up for as many as eight generations.
BT @ 39:
I don't know if Obama-Clinton would have worked or not. I would have liked it, but I also like Obama-Biden. Repugs absolutely hate Hillary. They hate the Clintons period.
No use right now questioning if Clinton should have been the pick....got to keep fighting.
All weekend, I was putting comments on YouTube and various newspapers blogs, getting our point of view out there....Nothing nasty, no name-calling, just something we're passionate about....like wanting to have a President who isn't prone to going to war.
Yahoo News has a "Most Popular" segment. For about 4 or more straight days, I kept on seeing one particular article from a guy at Politico.com. It was pointing out all the reasons to NOT vote for Obama. I think it is pretty rare to have a story on Yahoo News's "most popular" segment for that long.....I bet Repugs kept looking at it over and over and over again to keep it on that "most popular" segment.
Hieronymus Braintree @ 34:
We need keep repeating it. The republicans trying to snowball us are all liars, pathological as well as bald faced liars.
BT @ 39:
Exactly!
I do think that McCain and Palin seem unstable... so if you can ask them questions off the script... there is a good chance that we might end up with a full-on nervous breakdown in front of the cameras.
Both are curiously thin-skinned and prone to anger. Neither qualities are good in a leader. So, I think if we keep the pressure on them... there is a good chance that they might self destruct on their own.
And if they don't, it is better for Obama-Biden to force McCain-Pail to play under pressure.
bert @ 10:
Brokaw asked Biden about the Clintons. He replied that Hillary and Bill were getting ready to campaign with the Obama/Biden campaign.
Contrast Hillary's speech with Palin. Palin is pathetic. She won't take interviews, she won't even take questions from the audience. Sounds more and more like they are going to plant people at her events, like they did with George.
This whole polling thing has be rather suspicious. With the jobless rates report, how in the world could it be possible that people (even stupid people, as some of you point out) could not wake up and smell the coffee. People who would rather be hypnotized by catch-phrases and one-liners from the GOP rather that facing the real and terrifying facts of this administration and the one that promises not only more of the same but worse.
Centrocitta @ 53:
Oh, stop it. That is not the way to win any intelligent voters. Just stop.
Fanon @ 59:
Yeah...The GOP would never stoop to bringing up illegitimate children or call people unpatriotic...or....
Left&Left @ 44:
And it's not as if they have been "ousted"....just not on the political reporting part.
And to call Hillary names and imply that she's a lunatic left....just goes to show you that repugs love name calling.
Hannity, Limbaugh, and Savage have the top 3 radio shows in this country....they yell and scream and spread hate and lies....is this what you really want this country to be all about??? If these 3 jerks represent America, then, yes, I do hate America because I hate yelling, screaming, hateful, racist pigs.
I look forward to both Clinton's campaigning on behalf of the Democratic Party.
shaggles @ 18:
He's already committed to campaigning. It was reported yesterday.
It is also in Hillary's (and Bill's) best interest for them to campaign for Obama. Hillary does not want to run against Palin in 2012. Imagine the circus. Talk about the issues not mattering. Ms. Armegeddon vs. Hillary?
Obama should have Hill, Bill and Gore stomping all over the country for him. The Republicans have no one to match our star power. They want to hide Bush and Cheney away so voters won't remember the last 8 years.
JESUS was a community orgainzer. Pontious Pilot was a governer!
Brad @ 8:
Did you include a little of the white powder like some democrats received a while back?
I think they called it "amtrax" or something like that.
Liberal AND Proud @ 60:
Really? I don't think that's quite the same. That's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about insinuating that Down's babies are a result of incest. Plenty of Independent and Democractic voter's out there with children like that.
I don't know, if you want to roll that way L&P, go for it. I will continue to call bullshit when I see it.
i wonder what hillary would say about palin's connection
with alaska independence party watch this video 1:30 min. very short but very good listen to party chairman
recognize palin as past member of party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8
J DeBartolo @ 65:
Bush was a governor as well....for 2 terms!
hopefulvoter @ 42:
Agreed. And Hillary has to come out swinging harder than this. That "No way" slogan is good in its own right, but it will get trite and tiresome fairly soon. What needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops is Palin's EXTREME views, her hypocrisy, her lying, her ruthlessless, her mendacity, her ... well, everything. The record is there; expose it.
She's a clear and present danger.
Embittered-Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1 @ 11:
Because Americans are notoriously stupid people who claim they want to be rugged or independent, but want to leech as much as possible. Why think when you can have someone else do it?
BigIslandDave @ 23:
Dumb ass. Hear yourself. Rachel Maddow's show premieres tonight. And your point is?
Fanon @ 59:
Just tell the truth. Palin is a liar. McCain is a liar. The republican hierarchy is filled with liars. Rove is the most disguting liar of them all.
59 fanon said:
Centrocitta @ 53:
25 Janet says…….We need to paint Palin as as a dangerous extremist
Scare the voters.. remember the terror alerts?.
She wants to outlaw ALL abortion even in the case of rape and incest…….
Incest is probably a way of life for Palin’s own family. At least in Europe, studies have shown that Downs Syndrome comes from incest and this genetic abnormality can show up for as many as eight generations.
Oh, stop it. That is not the way to win any intelligent voters. Just stop.......
Sorry friend, but Half-Baked Alaska and Little Miss Nobody Palin is fair game.
Go Hillary
Pound in their heads if you need too
I can see the first signs that Americans mess up another election believing McCain/Palin are different than Bush/Cheney.
I have a newsflash, They are worse, much worse and to think McCain close to that Button is unthinkable to me.
chicano2nd @ 29:
I am a socialist, what is YOUR point.
I have no use for Democrats or Republicans. What are you?
BT @ 39:
Yup-yup.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 76:
Progressive!
Can't wait for an open thread:
PLEASE read this and donate!
http://www.gregpalast.com/obama-doesn%E2%80%99t-sweat-he-should/
C&L, please pick up this story. Becasue if this stuff is really happening (again), none of the other things will matter. Thanks.
Damien Duff @ 64:
This is why the Republicans are fawning all over Palin: She's their celebrity.
Dale @ 79:
They did the same thing with Arnold.
constituent @ 68:
check this out
Hopefully, this is just the beginning and HRC gets more agressive as times goes on.
bert @ 49:
Too true!
chicano2nd @ 78:
Oh really, then apologize to me for your language and prove that you are a progressive.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 76: