It's Policies before Personalities

John McCain on doughnuts and sprinkles.

"This is our latest health program."

OK, here's the deal. The media wants to make presidential elections about personalities alone, a clash between individuals instead of two people that represent certain policies they want to install in the country. But we're supposed to be voting on a candidate that expresses a desire to pass legislation that will help the country. We're voting on principles plain and simple. McCain represents the almost eight years of probably the worst presidency in the history of the US. It's "The Bush years," ladies and gentlemen. We nearly just had a depression with the Bear Stearns fiasco, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac being taken over by the government, almost 50 million people have no health insurance, two wars are raging with no end in sight and China's holding the paper on it.

The government is wiretapping our phones and emails although they would never use any of the gathered information for purposes other than combating terrorism. Yea, right. Bush admitted he approved of torture which is now up there with apple pie as part of the American way. Rumsfeld tells the troops that they should STFU because you go to war with what you have. Screw you and your MRAPS. McCain doesn't want to expand services for the troops because he says they may leave the service then. Isn't that a funny way  of showing one's support for the military?

Remember when we found a Canadian coin in our pocket and laughed about it saying "how the heck did it get there?" Not anymore.

You remember the idiotic question that infatuated the kool kidz back in the 2000 election, the one that asked the very serious "Who would you rather have a beer with George Bush or Al Gore?

According to a just-released Sam Adams/Roper Starch poll, more people would rather sit down to drink a beer with George Bush than Al Gore. Although some 24% of people are still undecided, tonight's debate could sway these swing voters. The Sam Adams' poll gives Bush a 3-point advantage (40% vs. 37%) even though the candidates are practically in a "dead heat" in all other polls. Could it be that Bush is just that much more likable? Or, has Al Gore's boasting gotten the best of him? Even so, Gore wouldn't be the first to tell tall tales in a bar, now would he? The fact remains though that the people's pick for a quick visit over a beer is Bush

Are you still drunk or drinking now? Outside of the Supreme Court's interference, Bush got the job because the media elites made that election about who you thought was your friend and drinking buddy. Not about our well being. They screamed about who invented the Internets and inspired Love Story and things that don't mean a damn to any of us except the people that don't have to worry about their next meal. The millionaire, rich kid---fanboys that populate the elite media and want to control the system. That's very important to our political system and the well being of our families.

When I'm writing a check to my health insurance company that just raised my rates again, I wonder and say---Yea, the cost just went up again, but if I could only have a cold one with John McCain at this moment everything would be alright. Bush and I could share a few chuckles over that one too. Good times for sure.

This election is about restoring some order to our country. Here's a memo to the media: Do some segments about POLICY! It matters when we're actually trying to get jobs, pay bills and feed our families. I can't make it any clearer than that.

A vote for McCain equals more War.

A vote for McCain equals No universal health care.

A vote for McCain equals a continued collapsing economy.

A vote for McCain equals higher gas prices.

A vote for McCain equals no help for the housing market.

A vote for McCain equals a further erosion of woman's rights.

A vote for McCain equals ideologue judges being placed throughout the country.

Please add to the list. You see my point. John McCain knows this so he covers up his complicity in "The Bush Years" and support of failed policies with doughnuts so the media will be soft on him. And that has worked all too well. .That's it for now. Have a beer, go to a soccer game, but make sure you vote to improve THIS Country. Vote Obama.

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A vote for McCain equals more Big Oil in the White House.

A vote for McCain equals more faith-based foreign policy.

A vote for McCain equals the end of all that is good on this planet.

Um, how about more tax cuts for the wealthy and the corporations while the middle class continues to fund policies they don't benefit from and seem to have no say in?

PEACE

All excellent points. But as Greenwald has said:

"Every four years, the GOP unleashes unrestrained personality attacks on Democrats and exploits cultural resentments. Every four years, Democrats tell themselves that such attacks don't work and are counter-productive. And every four years, that belief is disproven. These "character" issues end up mattering largely because Democrats, in election after election, allow wars over "character" to be waged in a largely one-sided fashion."

A vote for McPain equals a kick in the nut-sack.

If Americans fall for this bullshit in 2008, like they did in 2004, they're going to get exactly what they deserve. And, I'm tired of taking the fall, along with the other morons who believe everything they see on the TeeVee.

The blogosphere better start wrapping its head around a McCain/Palin victory. Then, we'll all have to admit we're badly outnumbered and outflanked by stupidity. Then what?

Great Britain? Canada? Western Europe?

GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!

And denial of science (no global warming, no endangered species, no stem cell research)? Especially if Sarah The Feared has any say in policy?

PEACE

A vote for McCain equals more War.

This excellent vid pushes that point perfectly. I only wish the DNC would buy it and run it in primetime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w&eurl=

A vote for McCain equals the meteoric rise of American Fascism

A vote for McCain equals the continued dumbing down of America

A vote for McCain equals a complete loss of hope; or a vote for McCain equals American despair

A vote for McCain equals a vote for the American Taliban.

If Americans fall for this bullshit in 2008, like they did in 2004, they’re going to get exactly what they deserve. And, I’m tired of taking the fall, along with the other morons who believe everything they see on the TeeVee.

I'm almost about to create a t-shirt:

#1:
[graphic]
McCain head
[text]
"You can't Blame Me..
I Didn't Vote for Him."

#2:
[graphic]
map of US with heads of McCain and Palin on top
[text]
"See You in Hell!"

theWalrus @ 5:

All excellent points. But as Greenwald has said:

"Every four years, the GOP unleashes unrestrained personality attacks on Democrats and exploits cultural resentments. Every four years, Democrats tell themselves that such attacks don't work and are counter-productive. And every four years, that belief is disproven. These "character" issues end up mattering largely because Democrats, in election after election, allow wars over "character" to be waged in a largely one-sided fashion."

Greenwald is exactly right.

He's one of the best commentators on the web.

What is that smell???

Oh that's just the smell of 30m rabid libs crapping in their shorts.


Priceless

The Ultra Right Wing again defeats the Right Wing.

They may do it with Diebold's blessing anyway so what is your beef?

A vote for McCain guarantees a President Palin. McCain is terribly frail and, actuarially speaking, probably won't survive his first term.

A vote for McCain equals more media consolidation resulting in more media propaganda and lazy, patronizing reporting.

A vote for McCain equals four more years reckless and headstrong leadership.

It's official now. John McCain and Sarah Palin are up in the latest polls with a bullet.

Will this give the Obama-Biden campaign incentive to get serious?

Sarah Palin 24/7

Who's McCain?

a vote for mccain/palin represents: (sorry if there are any repeats in here)
- continued regression toward a new "dark ages", where religious superstition and ideology trumps enlightenment,knowledge, and science in the interest of humanity
- turning over the keys of our nuclear and military establishment to a PTSD-unbalanced angry/unstable personality and his religious wingnut vp who probably would just love doomsday to get here so she can float up to heaven with jeebus
- continued dependence on foreign oil because domestic oil production policies will be found to be unworkable and they will not invest enough in alternatives
- increased social chaos in race relations, labor relations, and quality of life for middle class workers
- increased out of wedlock pregnancy because sex ed is "immoral"

rick street @ 21:

a vote for mccain/palin represents: (sorry if there are any repeats in here)
- continued regression toward a new "dark ages", where religious superstition and ideology trumps enlightenment,knowledge, and science in the interest of humanity
- turning over the keys of our nuclear and military establishment to a PTSD-unbalanced angry/unstable personality and his religious wingnut vp who probably would just love doomsday to get here so she can float up to heaven with jeebus
- continued dependence on foreign oil because domestic oil production policies will be found to be unworkable and they will not invest enough in alternatives
- increased social chaos in race relations, labor relations, and quality of life for middle class workers
- increased out of wedlock pregnancy because sex ed is "immoral"

I think the 50's up til Jan 2001 will be referred to as The Great American Experiment.

Nice while it lasted.

I'm feeling scared today about how many polls have McSame up. Now I don't want to do the doom and gloom crap or Dems always lose the fix is in, because that's disempowering and only helps us lose. So I'm doing phonebanking tomorrow, which particularly matters here as I'm in Ohio.

How are the rest of you dealing? Should I be feeling scared? I know I feel mad as hell. What can I and we do?

I have a hard time trying to figure out who to be maddest at:

1. The American public for being so gullible and shallow in their response to presidential campaigns.
2. The Republican party for being so cynical and unprincipled that they shamelessly exploit the public's shallowness.

or

3. The Democratic party for allowing the Republicans to do this, election after election.

A vote for McCain equals perpeptual war and the end of the U.S. any we know it.

Well I have some redneck gittin' dirty work to do around here until later when I can relax and cultivate my higher intelligence and sensibilities.

Have fun.

These Sexist And Elitist Attacks On Sarah Palin Have To Stop!

Rick Davis told Fox News Sunday that Sarah Palin would not be made available to speak to the press until they treat her with "respect and deference." Good for him. The Democrats' and the liberal media's scurrilous attacks on Sarah Palin have indeed been appalling.

Dr. Laura:

I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain? I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age. But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

David Frum:

If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Charles Krauthammer:

Palin is not ready.

Powertools:

...some argue instead (or alternatively) that Sarah Palin's credentials are adequate. These arguments are mostly laughable.

The American Conservative:

If Palin gets elected, John Hagee wins again.

Mike Murphy:

You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

Peggy Noonan:

The most qualified? No! I think they went for this - excuse me - political bullshit about narratives.

Lyda Green (R-AK):

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?" said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"

From FDL

LOL, those Damn Liberals!

Bogie @ 24:

I have a hard time trying to figure out who to be maddest at:

3. The Democratic party for allowing the Republicans to do this, election after election.

WE are the Democratic Party. So what should WE be doing? I'm serious. Let's get concrete rather than carping at the big picture and then tossing up our arms. It's too important to be backseat drivers.

Bogie @ 24

The American people will ge the president they deserve, while we suffer through it. It kills me that these people vote against their own best interest time after time, based on nothing else but sound bytes.

I am actaully one of those people who would be affected by Obama's tax increases, but I choose to put country first and vote for him anyway, because the election is not about me and my pocketbook; it is about the survival of the U.S.

My only hope is that Calfiornia succeeds from the union (ha!).

Lilybelle @ 23:

I'm feeling scared today about how many polls have McSame up. Now I don't want to do the doom and gloom crap or Dems always lose the fix is in, because that's disempowering and only helps us lose. So I'm doing phonebanking tomorrow, which particularly matters here as I'm in Ohio.

How are the rest of you dealing? Should I be feeling scared? I know I feel mad as hell. What can I and we do?

we need to make our voices heard directly to the obama/biden campaign people. they need to take off the kid gloves and start getting more aggressive.

a vote for McCain means fewer rights for single fathers, and women everywhere.

Lilybelle @ 23:

What can I and we do?

All that remains is the pretense that we are still a wealthy society. Put aside dreaming altogether for a while and start focusing on reality instead -- that part of the day when we're awake and capable of actually doing things is about all at this point.

ask yourself,

what am i going to do if mccain becomes president?

A vote for McCain lines up his finger with the button of destruction for the US - especially when he loses his temper.
What a (f**kn) jerk.

burnt @ 31:

a vote for McCain means fewer rights for single fathers, and women everywhere.

Thats why many people are going to vote for them.

Later

Now We're Talking.

A vote for McCain/Palin means rightwing, extrememist Supreme Court nominees and the beginning of totalitarian America.

Obummer @ 33:

ask yourself,

what am i going to do if mccain becomes president?

Wouldn't it be better to ask yourself what you can do to stop this scenario? And with that I'm signing out. The blogosphere can be far too much about posing and far to little about doing politics.

john, i can't remember the last time that i enjoyed a post on your site so much. kudos. you spoke from the heart while maintaining perspective and providing links to back it up. well done, sir. keep up the good work.
more posts like this one!

I'm sorry, but thanks to the primary "reporting" and "journalism" by people like Arianna Huffington and the rabid far-left, the democrats ruined their chances long ago. What country did they think they were living in?

If there is an election, it will be stolen. We will be come fodder for the rich and the elite.

A vote for McCain equals never getting to the bottom of the Anthrax attacks.

Lilybelle @ 28

What can you do when you don't even have an unbiased media. The uber-wealthy in this country want a McCain presidency. The powerful and wealthy Right Wing Religious Nutball Fringe want a McCain presidency. The media must be compliant or they won't be allowed their continued media consolidation.

Unfortunately, all you have to do is mention an increase in taxes and people lose all sense of rational thought. Jobs? The economy? Health Insurance? Perpetual war? Our standing in the world? How many Republicans indicted? Oil prices? Forget that, what about my taxes? McCain has implied that taxes would increase for the middle class, which they won't, but he's planted that seed and people won't refute it.

I'm going to start wear nothing but the Onion T-shirt that says: "Jesus is My Health Insurance".

USAToday/Gallup: McCain 54%, Obama 44% among likely voters.

Obama will join the long list of losers.

Clinton 12.

also, a mention of rick davis' comments on the election being about personalities, not issues, would've been effective here. with links.
thanks again.

Thank you - you read my mind. I overheard a group of moms on Friday afternoon talking about how their husbands think Palin is "hot" and how much they like her glasses. Then this morning I saw the polls showing McCain is ahead. It's proven over and over again that Americans really are that stupid.

L.A. Confidential @ 32:

Lilybelle @ 23:

What can I and we do?

All that remains is the pretense that we are still a wealthy society. Put aside dreaming altogether for a while and start focusing on reality instead -- that part of the day when we're awake and capable of actually doing things is about all at this point.

You know, when the Golden Gate Bridge was being constructed - they ran out of money. Americans banded together, put a mortgage on their homes and farms to raise the necessary cash for the Bridge to be completed. What happened to that spirit? What happened to that patriotism? Are we such a selfish nation that things like that don't matter?

McSame proposes to "keep taxes low" in part by ending the employer deductibility of health care benefits, i.e., your employer-provided health coverage would become taxable income if he gets his way.

Because, as everyone knows, our health care problem in this country is largely the result of our being "overinsured."

OT: Just read that Keith Olberman and Crissy Matthews are not going to be
the lead commentators on MSNBC during the Nov. Election coverages; instead
they are being replaced by David Gegory because, apparently, Keith and Crissy
are tooooo opinionated in their views. I am now holding my breath(yeah, right)
for Faux Noise to remove Brit Hummmmmm and Freddie Boy Barnes(and those
other "fair and balanced" guys) for same reason.

Well, with NBC being the owner/in control of MSNBC and G.E. being the ultimate "control" entity of NBC, it is no surprise, at least not to me, that Keith is being downgraded. I mean, after all, Keith is about the only political pundit who "tells it like it is."

All good and well, yes, McCain would be bad.

But seriously, how do you know Obama is going to fix the country?

I'm reminded of the Tom Tomorrow picture from July 15th, which talked about the invisible constituency, which Obama felt he desperately needed so much that he voted to eviscerate the 4th Amendment in line with Bush's wishes.

He's a politician. And no matter who you vote for, a lousy politician is going to win.

the Walrus @ 38:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-fbcy1tRoA

Chris Hedges on American Fascism (CBC)
If you don't watch the whole thing, then at least start at 6 minutes in and you'll see where the Republican votes come from and why.

Good afternoon, folks.

Keith Olbermann expresses his disgust at the 9-11 PORN display last Thursday night and is promptly PUNISHED by MSGOP by being pulled off the election coverage.

I think it's time for MSGOP to join the list of stations I've blocked from my TV set.

Walrus@38 A vote for the Jim Crow ticket means continued rightwing extrememist Supreme Court Judges and four more years of totalitarianism in America.

Keep hangin' on, folks. Just a few more weeks until the first presidential debate in the lovely college town of Oxford, Mississippi. Ol' Wet Start Johnny won't have Gov. Coulter there to help him out. Should be good.

"He’s a politician. And no matter who you vote for, a lousy politician is going to win."

Okay, John - you win.

We'll just stay home and do nothing.

I'm not a fatalist, but I'm stumped.

1. How do we hold the media accountable?
2. How do we energize the Obama movement so that McCain doesn't steal the thunder again. (Say what you will, but announcing Palin the day after Obama's brilliant speech negated much of the good of the DNC. Watching the media, it was like throwing a piece of steak to starving sharks.)
3. How do we avoid the same kind of self-defeatist crap, the hang-dog attitude, that has stumped us every time we get close to making progress?

For our country, for my children, for this entire planet, WE CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH, McCAIN or PALIN (she's been in government after all and we've seens pretty clearly she's merely Cheney in a dress)!!

A vote for McCain equals a hothead with his finger on the button! And a VP who is just waiting for the chance to hasten the "end times."

Hilarious.

Methinks that Crooks and Liars, a dedicated Democrat soapbox that glosses over Democrat foibles, is now panicing that their Messiah Obama will not be able to pull off the victory they so desperately crave. They know they have a bad habit of dropping the ball at the last minute allowing the Republicans to steal ekk out a victory at the last minute. And as demonstrated by John Kerry's hasty conceeding of the election in 2004, most know that the Republican and Democrat parties are merely wings of the War Party, which of course is the real government running America today, giving average voters the false choices at election time because they it is easier to control them for the next four years.

Never mind that the Democrats are now almost indistinguishable from the Republicans as a War Party bent on crushing freedom in America to protect their corporate and Israeli masters, the problem has to be that the public doesn't get it and so sites like Crooks and Liars have to "educate" us as to why their dictator hero Obama is so much better than that nasty McCain. But polling and the reality of Democratic betrayal of American values since 2006 crush the logic of their arguments. For some reason they can't understand, the American public doesn't seem to be buying the MSM propoganda anymore.

Want to know why Democrats highbrows like Pelosi and Reid don't want to impeach Bush? Because they would be implicated in the treason that unfolded during the Bush Presidency. They knew exactly what Bush was up to and approved it all wholeheartedly.

(JA- Please don't write magazine size articles in the comment section. Thanks David)

John@50
The same bullshit argument made in 2000 with Gore v Bush. How did that work for you John?

You forgot

A Vote for McCain is a vote against the envrionment

A Vote for McCain is a vote against clean renewable energy

"Remember when we found a Canadian coin in our pocket and laughed about it saying “how the heck did it get there?”

Um,I still do that and I'm Canadian.(draw your own conclusions)
Speaking of which,Harper is looking to form a Majority government up here which will be truly awful.
See?Theres enough pain for everyone to go around! Now don't push:everybody will get their share.

McCain Bush Republicans are

Anti Democrats
Anti Women
Anti Gay
Anti Poor and Middleclass
Anti Labor
Anti Free Press
Anti Choice
Anti Regulation
Anti Fair Trade

The Republicans are all about hate, the insanity of being "Pro-Life and being Pro War" at the same time is mind boggleing.

And if that were not enough RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WORST FINANCIAL DISASTERS THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN...

So how in the hell have they pursuaded 50% of Americans to poll for McCain? The ignorance continues to baffle me. Our country has been more dummed down than even I had thought.

Until ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, PBS, BBC, and all other so called News outlets are taken over by responsible journalism, we are in for worse than 4 more years of Bush, we will be taken right back to the dark ages and financial ruin.

can somebody please explain to me this morning's nyt puff piece on palin?

when the fuck did they become us magazine?

Every Dem needs to stand back and take a deep breath....
We need to assess the situation...
& plan accordingly...

These polls will not stand for long and we have a very, very good chance of fighting back...

I believe we need to unleash all those people who voted for Hillary who are partial for Obama (young, middle-aged, & old) and let them all tell their story publicly. Why they are voting for Obama and why it is not a good idea to vote for McCain.

Also that tape that indicated Palin did not have a clue as to what a vice-president does needs to be broadcast with all her verifiable questionable behavior (like the book banning thing).

Also, these people are Republicans, just how close are they with the present administration and what you will expect if they win.

We need to get really mean about this, and keep those issues white hot in front of the people.

Otherwise, we don't stand a chance....

the only way obama loses is racism. its that simple. the right wing and the tv newsmedia are racist. that's what were up against.

And the Obama campaign goes; yessir Senator McCain, nice record you have there you brave soldier, and Gov. Palin, what nice lipstick you have, how best can we serve you?
No low road for us, otherwise we might just...win!

Finally, someone making sense and a liberal not afraid to speak out -
The DNC blew it at the convention - McCain is not 4 more years of Bush...McCain is much worse!!! - The message was wrong, some people dont like McCain but they like change less. We may have put McCain over the top by comparing him to Bush -
The theme should have been - "You thought Bush was bad...McCain is much worse."
And attack Palin, attack and attack again - She is weak, not a star - and tell the Dems to quit praising her...are you kidding?
She has lied...call her a "liar" - What are you afraid of...Winning?

How many senate and congressional seats do the Dems expect to take back this election season?

a vote for McShame is a vote for a punch in the face. Your own face

They are CORPORATE MEDIA, people!!! Chuy!!!
They are instruments, outlets, sources for the CORPORATE STATE.
They CANNOT, by definition, be "unbiased."
The BEST you could EVER have hoped for would have been that their bias would be for the "people." And it was truer, the farther back into the history of the institution you go. The decline of the interest of the press in the affairs and needs of the common folks maps directly on the Corporatization of the industry.
In the Corporate State, corporate media ARE State Media, indistinguishable in their propaganda function from all the other Institutional State Apparati, such as the schools, and 'entertainment' and public relations industries. Everywhere the State must touch the people, there will you find a corporate intermediatry to interpret (spin? propagandize!) for the State interest. Nobody anymore believes the interests of the Corporate State intersect with the needs of the constituent, real, mortal people other than by accident or coincidence...

David @ 58:

"Israeli masters"? "'Green Army' of fascist spies"?

Don't you know you have to be careful what you say? The black helicopters are circling, ever circling.

Pari @ 56:

I'm not a fatalist, but I'm stumped.

1. How do we hold the media accountable?
2. How do we energize the Obama movement so that McCain doesn't steal the thunder again. (Say what you will, but announcing Palin the day after Obama's brilliant speech negated much of the good of the DNC. Watching the media, it was like throwing a piece of steak to starving sharks.)
3. How do we avoid the same kind of self-defeatist crap, the hang-dog attitude, that has stumped us every time we get close to making progress?

For our country, for my children, for this entire planet, WE CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH, McCAIN or PALIN (she's been in government after all and we've seens pretty clearly she's merely Cheney in a dress)!!

Yup, John, you are preachin' to the choir. Republicans have proven they're capable of doing anything to get, hold and increase their power. How do we reach those that don't get it, those that are really on the fence, the uniformed conventional folk among us that don't see how desperate the situation is, that America is truly at stake? The ones that don't know what a signing statement is, or that Reid and Pelosi have tragically failed the country by not impeaching the oilmen in the White House, or those that don't see how the media is rapidly disintegrating into infotainment and propaganda outlets?

Do not give up...

Obama is a very, very smart person.

I have faith in him and the people around him.

but the print and visual traditional corporate media have to do this on a relatively 'equal' time basis and that's where dems/liberals can't compete because the well trained right wing media operatives have an advantage- the coordinated uncontested repetition only talk radio can provide, and it is invisible to progressives.

the analysis consensus is palin was chosen to bring in the religious base, the hard core conservatives, and maybe ex clinton voters. that's analysis without the whole picture. palin was chosen to consolidate the talk radio base and give limbaugh an excuse to do a 10pt flip flop and get behind mccain in time for the convention.

until progressives begin listening and calling and boycotting and picketing at the local RW talk radio station (1000 or 20 per state avg) limbaugh will keep kicking sand in our faces. we wouldn't be in this bush disaster if this monopoly wasn't created 20 years ago by guys like ex CIA director willianm casey. and if you listen long enough you'll hear the callers that sound like they're sitting in the heritage foundation basement.

to most progrssives talk radio is invisible and ignoring it is like ignoring the bullet wound because it's ugly. until progressives realize the difference, the reason we've been going backwards the last 20 years is the talk radio monopoly they will be playing politics without a front line.

It's not enough to talk to each other....

we need to be out each and every day teaching people about the issues.

I'm voting for Obama, because I think we need someone intelligent and who actually acts like he gives a damn about this country. I don't for the life of my understand how and why people think McCain and Palin are good for our country. The media showered praise on Palins fluff speech. WTF? Are you kidding me? What the hell is happening to our country when a person with zero fucking experience that is a proven liar and power abusing politician has a crack at the vice presidency? I want to vomit. I'm sick to my stomach that there's a possibility that McCain could win the election. He says country first. What a crock of shit. Someone who cares wouldn't pick someone like that.

Democrat for life here. Obama has to campaign hard. Win that election Barack! We need you!!!!

"So, what is it about Governor Palin that makes you want to fuck serve her?"

Rain at # 34 says:
A vote for McCain lines up his finger with the button of destruction for the US - especially when he loses his temper.

Don't forget, that it also means that an end-of-times Dominionist will be a heartbeat from that button. She may not push it in anger, but in a deranged state of "Joy and Rapture".

I don't know who wrote this thread leadin, but they nailed it! A short but accurate synopsis of the whole sordid seven plus year mess, and what we have to look forward to if we don't get this thing right this time... This nation cannot afford another whif based on the same kind of paperthin good buddy bullshit we've been spoonfed in the extreme the last two election cycles.. by the media AND the candidates and their handlers...We've been getting steered and it's disgusting. I'm sick of it!! This devious desire to steer and manipulate by the politicians and the media instead of report factually and provide an avenue for the people of this nation to see and evaluate these people who would presume to lead us is playing a large part in killing this nation from within.

In short, we need the REAL THING, NOT some p.r. propaganda designed and controlled by campaign staffs, or self styled politicial 'gurus'.. (Yea, I'm talkin about you Karl, you motherfucker!!!) Implemented by a media that appears either cluelessly compliant and willing to be steered itself, or just as likely in collusion with the politicians owing to conflicts of interest that reside with the actual owners of this increasingly consolidated monopolistic media. They'd just as soon keep feeding us pablum about how great a drinking buddy some asshat pol would be, or how pretty they smile, or how well they kiss babies and bring home pork, or what the hell they did in some past war be they geniune war hero material (which is not in evidence at all if one just looks at the actual record) or just some guy unlucky enough to get his jet shot out from under his ass and end up a P.O.W.
In short, we need to find out what these two men and their VP choices are really all about.. NOT what they'd like us to think and react to.....JD

BT @ 76:

It's not enough to talk to each other....

we need to be out each and every day teaching people about the issues.

My mother-in-law is a die hard Republican...

She's voting for Obama...

That is all that needs to be said about the potential of changing people minds...

WE can do this....

edgecity @ 73:

Pari @ 56:

I'm not a fatalist, but I'm stumped.

1. How do we hold the media accountable?
2. How do we energize the Obama movement so that McCain doesn't steal the thunder again. (Say what you will, but announcing Palin the day after Obama's brilliant speech negated much of the good of the DNC. Watching the media, it was like throwing a piece of steak to starving sharks.)
3. How do we avoid the same kind of self-defeatist crap, the hang-dog attitude, that has stumped us every time we get close to making progress?

For our country, for my children, for this entire planet, WE CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH, McCAIN or PALIN (she's been in government after all and we've seens pretty clearly she's merely Cheney in a dress)!!

Yup, John, you are preachin' to the choir. Republicans have proven they're capable of doing anything to get, hold and increase their power. How do we reach those that don't get it, those that are really on the fence, the uniformed conventional folk among us that don't see how desperate the situation is, that America is truly at stake? The ones that don't know what a signing statement is, or that Reid and Pelosi have tragically failed the country by not impeaching the oilmen in the White House, or those that don't see how the media is rapidly disintegrating into infotainment and propaganda outlets?

Maybe going door to door for the Obama campaign. Talking to your neighbors, try to get them to turn off American Idol long enough to explain the stakes for them and their families?

On your point about a vote for McCain meaning higher gas prices, I feel the need to object. McCain does mean higher gas prices, but the real concern is higher energy prices in general, with no alternative that will benefit the economy, the environment, or foreign policy. I could care less if gas goes up to $15 a gallon, as long as alternative energy becomes more viable AND more affordable. We can't wait until that $15 mark to do something better.

ZappaFrank @ 77:

I'm voting for Obama, because I think we need someone intelligent and who actually acts like he gives a damn about this country. I don't for the life of my understand how and why people think McCain and Palin are good for our country. The media showered praise on Palins fluff speech. WTF? Are you kidding me? What the hell is happening to our country when a person with zero fucking experience that is a proven liar and power abusing politician has a crack at the vice presidency? I want to vomit. I'm sick to my stomach that there's a possibility that McCain could win the election. He says country first. What a crock of shit. Someone who cares wouldn't pick someone like that.

Democrat for life here. Obama has to campaign hard. Win that election Barack! We need you!!!!

He needs to stop making stupid gaffe replies this this.

emoboy44 @ 70:

a vote for McShame is a vote for a punch in the face. Your own face

LOL! why not cut out the middle man and stay home and punch yourself in the face?
The Dems need to stop running away from the "Liberal" label and embrace it-even if in reality they are more moderate than anything these daze.

Jack Damage @ 80:

I don't know who wrote this thread leadin, but they nailed it! A short but accurate synopsis of the whole sordid seven plus year mess, and what we have to look forward to if we don't get this thing right this time... This nation cannot afford another whif based on the same kind of paperthin good buddy bullshit we've been spoonfed in the extreme the last two election cycles.. by the media AND the candidates and their handlers...We've been getting steered and it's disgusting. I'm sick of it!! This devious desire to steer and manipulate by the politicians and the media instead of report factually and provide an avenue for the people of this nation to see and evaluate these people who would presume to lead us is playing a large part in killing this nation from within.

In short, we need the REAL THING, NOT some p.r. propaganda designed and controlled by campaign staffs, or self styled politicial 'gurus'.. (Yea, I'm talkin about you Karl, you motherfucker!!!) Implemented by a media that appears either cluelessly compliant and willing to be steered itself, or just as likely in collusion with the politicians owing to conflicts of interest that reside with the actual owners of this increasingly consolidated monopolistic media. They'd just as soon keep feeding us pablum about how great a drinking buddy some asshat pol would be, or how pretty they smile, or how well they kiss babies and bring home pork, or what the hell they did in some past war be they geniune war hero material (which is not in evidence at all if one just looks at the actual record) or just some guy unlucky enough to get his jet shot out from under his ass and end up a P.O.W.
In short, we need to find out what these two men and their VP choices are really all about.. NOT what they'd like us to think and react to.....JD

Amen brother!