Obama calls out FOX News and Sean Hannity as promoting hate against himself
By John Amato Tuesday Sep 09, 2008 2:42pm
The O'Reilly Factor Interviews continue and in this segment BillO was into attacking the nasty comments on blogs, Ayers and Rev. Wright. I thought Obama did a great job of debunking O'Reilly's arguments and actually caught Bill flat footed when he went directly after FOX News and Sean Hannity for their hate based coverage of himself..
Download | play no QT (At the end of the interview. Rough transcript)
There's a whole bunch of stuff said on FOX about me that is completely biased.
Correct the record.
But I still don't mind coming on your show just because there are a whole bunch of things may be said on this network that I completely disagree with, I don't sort of assume that you have to take responsibilities for everything said on FOX News anymore than I would expect you to take responsibility for everything that is said on Daily Kos. Think about it,
That's a hateful thing, (Obama laughs) FOX News is not hateful. Some of our commentators may...
If you were watching Sean Hannity consistently..
but he's a commentator...
That's all these bloggers are, I'm not making an excuse for them
We do find FOX news biased and hateful, but Obama wouldn't go there and pointed out their second biggest draw as evidence. I find it interesting O'Reilly didn't defend Hannity at all. He just called him a commentator. FOX News has an awful lot of commentators don't you think? Obama could have named Tom Coburn as someone that he's worked with from the far right but he didn't go there either. Anyway, Obama is coming off very well on these segments overall.
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It was clear in this clip what a Bully Billo is.
I have a feeling that if Obama hadn't beeing running for office he could have made a fool of Billy boy.
I had a discussion with a wingnut and had the same argument thrown at me, you can't hold limbuagh, hannity or antof the others accountable because they are just commentators.
That line must have been on the weekly republican talking points email.
Keep hammering Dems.
I prefer hatful men, otherwise we're stuck with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg
This is a debate, we need a moderator for it.
I'm sorry Barack but going on Bill O's show was a mistake. Bill talked to you like you were his pool attendant. That was all he needed to do - behave towards you like he was your superior and he would win.
He did that.
You're going to lose this election. And I am very disappointed.
I just can't watch the clip. I start screaming at O'Reilly. Kudos to Obama for keeping his cool. My God, OReilly is such a vile hypocritical liar. Absolutely detestable human being. Is he human?
FoxNews biased? Never! I bet the next you're gonna say is that Karl Rove is campaign manager for John Bush..I mean John McCain.
I'd pay good money to see a video of BillO get his ***** ***** in.
I really don't think "losing" against Bill O'Reilly will determine this election. At the end of the day, the same people who hated him will hate him and the same people who liked him will like him. It's doubtful anyone else unsure would be spending two weeks watching interviews with Obama on Fox News (of all places) to begin with.
There's still the actual debates and I imagine that's when most opinions will be set in stone.
God, O'Reilly's such a putz.
Obama may have served on a city commission for the Mayor of Chicago with Bill Ayers, but unlike Sarah Palin, he never openly declared his affinity with a traitorous anti-American movement to bust up the United States like she's done with the Alaskan Independence Party, whose founder got murdered in a plastic explosives deal 'gone wrong'.
The match we need to see is Bill Clinton verses Bill O'Reilly. Clinton will call him out on some of his bullshit, and O'Reilly will counter with Volume.
Obama was actually laughing at Oreilly while having to ask him to calm down during their interview on Monday. Oreilly is such a loser.
OLiealot will quickly say that Hannity is "just" a commentator, yet he claims he himself is a journalist. Aren't journalists supposed to be objective? At least a little?
Fox News biased? Humm, Do any of you have one example of a "Commentator" of Fox that had an interview of McCain or any other Republican with that much lack of respect? He never let Obama finish a sentence for crying out loud! I have seen 3 interviews on Fox by Hannity and Orally and McCain was given total softballs. They laughed with him and NEVER followed up a question.
They have mostly former Bush felons working there and the man who runs Fox is former Republicon campaign manager.
There was NO legitimate political reason for going on FOX. There was NOTHING to be gained.
The assholes that watch FOX are not going to vote for Obama, and the replays constantly being replayed on the MSM will only prejudice the views of independents.
I'm sorry but I just couldn't watch more than 2 minutes. For Obama to put himself in the position of being lectured to by a facist, anti-intellectual bully like O'Reilly is just plain wrong. This interview was a mistake and Obama should have never done it.
Robbo @ 7:
I think not.
You cannot attack FOX and then legitimize them by appearing on their show.
Who is the media IDIOT that is advising this campaign?!?!
BillO lost that round.
Absolutely zero communication of any kind going on there. Perhaps not BillO's intention either, but the end result isn't very interesting to watch. I doubt the intended wingnut audience would find it interesting either. Obama didn't let BillO push him into a corner, and BillO didn't let Obama finish a sentence.
Since Obama had pretty much zero to gain from appearing on Fox News, I consider this stalemate a a win for Obama.
If Obama wins this election, Fox news can say goodbye to having access into the White House press briefing room.
Liberal AND Proud @ 16:
Because...if he didn't go on...the BOR would have claimed Obama was a coward. Granted...it's not the best situation he could have put himself in, but it shows he ain't scared of BOR's punk ass.
What's next? A warm & fuzzy with Rush Limbaugh?
Oreilly is a fucking jackass asshole unamerican prick.
I'm sorry liberalNmoderation...I don't agree. There is NO upside. If he doesn't go on...the ARGUMENT is that he is a coward...and you can countermand that.
You can't fight the images from the interview.
Why do you think Palin isn't giving interviews? Why do you think the American Cadaver hasn't appeared on Countdown?
Message to Obama:
Never wrestle with a pig. You get muddy and the pig likes it.
By engaging with FOX you only legitimize them. And they've proved themselves to be illegitimate for over a decade now.
If anyone talked to me the way Oreilly is in this clip I would have either walked out or punched him in his rotten potato face! But, I guess this is why Obama would be a good president - he wouldn't lose his cool in completely hostile territory.
He could have defended himself more aggressively, but unfortunately for us, Obama is being forced to walk a tight rope that no other politician is being asked to walk. If he's not defensive and assertive enough, the Republicans will whine that he'll be a wimp in the face of our enemies. On the other hand, if he defends himself too assertively, the Republicans will continue with the whisper campaigns that he's an 'uppity negro' who is a secret member of the Black Panthers, and will put white people in slavery for revenge if elected.
So far I've been pretty impressed with how well he's walked this stupid tight rope that he's being forced to walk. But, hopefully, if he's elected, and serves his eight years well, this nonsense won't be an issue any longer.
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Because…if he didn’t go on…the BOR would have claimed Obama was a coward. Granted…it’s not the best situation he could have put himself in, but it shows he ain’t scared of BOR’s punk ass.
That would have been a better outcome. O'Reilly is but a small pimple on the ass of the rightwing universe. Having someone like him call you a coward is, frankly, a badge of honor, sort of like getting on Richard Nixon's enemies list.
I get the feeling that Obama and his campaign people have underestimated and continue to underestimate the power of the Republican/Rightwing Ministry of Propaganda machine. First lesson: don't, in any way, legitimize them.
Liberal AND Proud @ 25:
Well...LnP...we all know why McBain and Sarah Wolfslayer won't give interviews to anyone but conservatively biased media outlets.
They know they would get picked apart by anyone like Olbermann or Maddow.
I think in the end...Obama will make BOR look a fool.
re: 26
Never wrestle with a pig. You get muddy and the pig likes it.
and with these pigs, you would also have to remove the lip stick.
YUCK!
Lee @ 29:
You, Lee are a total idiot if you actually believe the nonsense you just posted.
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What i friggin hate about the BillO is his tone and demeanor toward Obama...Completely confrontational and disrespectful.. Lets see is Bill gives the same higher-than-mighty bravado when he eventually interviews Palin or McCain. Doubtful, he'll likely lap her/his ass up one side and down the other like all of the FoxNews clowns!
theWalrus @ 30:
We shall see...
And I don't think Obama has underestimated anything or anyone.
It is he who is being underestimated.
Again, this is brilliant. Of course there's a reason to go on O'Reilly. First, there are a good many swing voters who watch O'Reilly. Second, it gives you a chance to put some English on O'Reilly's commentary about your campaign.
O'Reilly is a blowhard who is insecure about his legitimacy and eager to sell the "fair and balanced" party line.
Obama could attack him, but that would be a counterproductive waste of time for a candidate. That's what Keith Olbermann is for.
Obama could ignore him, but that leaves O'Reilly alone to own the Obama narrative on FOX.
Or Obama can flatter him, and then O'Reilly will keep it to a little badinage.
At the end of the day, however, what you get is a FOX audience seeing Papa Bear and Obama chatting cordially (believe me, this interview is a Merchant Ivory period costume drama compared to the rest of FOX's lineup)
So, FOX watchers who are eager to believe the "fair and balanced" bullshit will take the secret-muslim-terrorist-fist-jab cartoon down a notch or two.
BillO gets what BillO loves most: to puff himself up as the big he-man who can land the big fish.
There's no game for Obama in picking a fight with FOX. Diplomacy isn't just for foreign enemies.
OT forgive me but take aminute and vote on this ridiculous lipstick pig bs on msnbc there's already
150,000 votes....then maybe we can get back to issues
which the mccain campaign wants to avoid
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26637798/
Orally said there's nothing worse than DailyKos.
To test that, I've just gone to 2 websites.
At the top of the Dailykos mainpage,there's a post on "The truth about those scary earmarks" and an ad about fuel conservation.
At the top of Stormfront's homepage, there's a logo for "white pride worldwide" and mention of an upcoming talk with David Duke.
So, is Bill Orally saying her prefers white supremacists to liberals?
Remember, he said there's no one worse than the Dailykos people. I can only conclude he would prefer the company of white supremacists.
8 Ali Says: I just can’t watch the clip. I start screaming at O’Reilly. Kudos to Obama for keeping his cool. My God, OReilly is such a vile hypocritical liar. Absolutely detestable human being. Is he human?
I think he's like that guy in Men In Black, where if you remove his face there's a tiny space dude in a cockpit.
jharp @ 24:
Indeed he is!
As is Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage/Weiner, Coulter, Scarborough....have I left anyone off the list of treasonous assholes?
24 jharp Says: Oreilly is a fucking jackass asshole unamerican prick.
Uncircumsized?
That's such bull...."they are only commentators".
They are on f%$# TV and most Repug voters only get there "news" from TV and Fox at that.
'ENOUGH!' "... I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swiftboat politics. Enough is enough!" – President Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1beCIyUdM
ysbaddaden @ 38:
He's not that cool...behind his face is a giant asshole.
O'Leilly is such a horrible human being.
Billo the Clown showed himself to be the ill-informed, self-obsessed bully that he has always been. Senator Obama, on the other hand conducted himself gracefully and with class and managed to keep a cool head in the face of Billo's bullying. The senator looked "presidential". If it were me sitting in Billo's hot seat, it would have been all I could do to keep from punching the dumb sonofabitch.
As for a tactic to take away from this little session, why doesn't the Obama campaign contrast the fact that the Senator wasn't afraid to sit down with O'Reilly with the fact that media darling Palin won't subject herself to any unscripted press scrutiny? (Charlie Gibson doesn't count.) Anyone who's afraid to go out in front of the press is not real. Period. That assertion needs to be repeated and repeated and repeated...
This ain't brain surgery.
Sean Hannity is poor, inept water carrier for the GOP.
Still confused how oreilly has a show at all, but Obama does well. Must have been a challenge for billo to have to talk to someone he couldn't physically threaten. But I'm still confused why Obama would even talk to this traitor to American ideals and character.
The Countdown website, just might possibly be the worst on the internet. It rarely plays the item i select from the menu on the left and always plays the ads flawlessly of course. If this persists much longer I'm going to start sending notes to their advertisers that I will not purchase their products. The only reason i go their at all is to see some intelligent questions asked. Too bad Keith can't get some of those smarts to rub off on the webmaster there. Stoppit with the bells and whistles already and make something that works.
39 liberalNmoderation Says: jharp @ 24:
Oreilly is a fucking jackass asshole unamerican prick.
Indeed he is!
As is Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage/Weiner, Coulter, Scarborough….have I left anyone off the list of treasonous assholes?
Malkin?
She's assholier than thou.
JasonS @ 35:
That's what I been screamin...you just said it better than I could.
Thanks!
As Sarah returns triumphantly to AK...
Cue the new 30 second spot:
[sarcasticly snarling female v/o, panning visual montage of fawning, cheering throngs...]
"She's the biggest celebrity in ALASKA..."
ShotoJamf @ 45:
YES!!!!
This isn't brain science! It's Rocket SURGERY!
I agree, Obama did do well in this interview, and O'Reilly did a nice job interviewing him too.
If Kerry had done the same thing he might've been the President right now.
Olbermann's interview with Obama was pure milquetoast, and his ratings reflected it.
Even if McCain and Sarah America thought Olbermann would treat them with the same fawning he gave Obama, they'd still pass because of the low market share exposure they'd get. Just not worth taking her off the campaign trail at this point.
constituent @ 36:
Jesus H. Christ! And these are the guys who have a too heavy 'liberal bias'?!!
Fucking hell that's insulting!
"Do you think Sen. Barack Obama went too far with his 'lipstick on a pig' remark?"
"Yes, he has crossed the line this time." - WTF.. "this time".. implying that he's been close to doing it before.. And crossing the line for WHAT? We all KNOW it was a perfectly innocent use of a common idiom.
"No, this is just part of the rough-and-tumble of political campaigning." - Implying that Obama was STILL WRONG, yet that it's acceptable.
What happened to the "No, it's all bullshit!" option?!
Ali @ 8:
My sentiments exactly. I can't watch, because I despise every fiber in Billo's sick corpus.
ysbaddaden @ 47:
Oh yeah...so full of hate, that malkin character...gonna rupture her spleen.
Ugh... Somebody, please pull the cork out of O'Reilly's rear.
Black_Knight @ 12:
The only person that can really handle Bill is Phil Donohue. Check it out. Phil make O'Reilly look like the fool he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c&NR=1
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I can't even believe how RUDE bill o'reilly has been to Obama. It's disgusting.
What you're all witnessing here is a Ferrari (Obama) flying past a Pinto (O'Lielly).....
Nicely done Barack
And I hope God rots his cock off.
Alexdem @ 53:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,7129...
As for O'Reilly not defending Hannity, it's not a surprise. It wouldn't surprise me if those two hated each other. They would rather point out each other's faults than their own.
All I see with BillO is a man so seething with HATE, so blinded by RAGE that it is impossible for him to have any kind of intellectual conversation.
Look at him...he looks like a child who is on the edge of having a tantrum. You can see it's taking him every ounce of control to keep from screaming, "CUT HIS MIC" or "DO IT LIVE" or some psycho thing.
It is truly remarkable that this person is big paid money to talk on TV. I'm shocked every time I watch him.
liberalNmoderation:
And, of course, no hatred in your post...right?
Ugh… Somebody, please pull the cork out of O’Reilly’s rear.
No can do. It's been crazy-glued.
At first I thought him going on the Factor was a bad idea, but the more I think about it, the smarter it seems. If you're going to vote for Obama, you don't care what Bill O'Reilly has to say. And more than likely, you won't even watch the interview. But he might just get a hold of a few thousand yahoos who watch O'Reilly and change their minds. Maybe not. But I don't think it'll hurt him
Oh, almost forgot. DO IT LIVE!
I don't see this as being advantageous at all.
Obama winds up having to rationalize constantly to stay on a moderate tact(less he be "misinterpreted") while Captain Nut Sack is free to wallow in the most despicable fact free accusations and innuendo.
I'm soooooooooooooo tired of people struggling to be polite and chummy with this schmuck while he pounds on them with smug impunity.
Alexdem:
I felt the same when I saw the way the questions were framed; they both meant he was wrong.
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Why aren’t you reporting on the Hitler style socialism of Barack Obama? How he has hundreds of worshipers waiting in the wings to do his bidding? THIS IS FRIGHTENING!
Hitler tried to use force and extortion against the U.S. media also and then whinned in a ‘look what the meanies are trying to do us’ type of idea. He tried to use the United States media campaign to gain credibility for his own cause. JUST LIKE OBAMA IS DOING!
Shocking Obama / Hitler Youth
VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys1I99h76w0
Hitler wanted to occupy the minds of the young in Nazi Germany JUST LIKE OBAMA!
Movements for youngsters were part of German culture and the Hitler Youth had been created in the 1920’s. By 1933 its membership stood at 100,000. After Hitler came to power, all other youth movements were abolished and as a result the Hitler Youth grew quickly. In 1936, the figure stood at 4 million members. In 1936, it became all but compulsory to join the Hitler Youth. Youths could avoid doing any active service if they paid their subscription but this became all but impossible after 1939.
The Hitler Youth catered for 10 to 18 year olds. There were separate organisations for boys and girls. The task of the boys section was to prepare the boys for military service. For girls, the organisation prepared them for motherhood.
After March 1939 every child above ten up to eighteen was forced to join. If they did not, parents could be held responsible (fines, arrest). Often there were loopholes, though, because somehow children cheated — on the Hitler Jugend (HJ) elders — or parents moved somewhere else with them or they just did not join and after repeated inquiries by HJ authorities which were not answered by parent or child the HJ gave up. Claimed “conscientious objector” status held no sway, was not legal and not accepted. Most kids at ten wanted to join anyway because of peer pressure.
Why did Hitler create the Hitler Youth?
He was persuaded by his cronies before 1933 (when he took power) that in order for the Party and the National Socialist movement to continue and survive, they needed recruits. Those had to be reared in good time and systematically.
WHY IS OBAMA CREATING OBAMA YOUTH?? THIS IS SCAREY!!!
Why aren’t you reporting on the Hitler style socialism of Barack Obama? How he has hundreds of worshipers waiting in the wings to do his bidding? THIS IS FRIGHTENING!
Hitler tried to use force and extortion against the U.S. media also and then whinned in a ‘look what the meanies are trying to do us’ type of idea. He tried to use the United States media campaign to gain credibility for his own cause. JUST LIKE OBAMA IS DOING!
Shocking Obama / Hitler Youth
VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys1I99h76w0
Hitler wanted to occupy the minds of the young in Nazi Germany JUST LIKE OBAMA!
Movements for youngsters were part of German culture and the Hitler Youth had been created in the 1920’s. By 1933 its membership stood at 100,000. After Hitler came to power, all other youth movements were abolished and as a result the Hitler Youth grew quickly. In 1936, the figure stood at 4 million members. In 1936, it became all but compulsory to join the Hitler Youth. Youths could avoid doing any active service if they paid their subscription but this became all but impossible after 1939.
The Hitler Youth catered for 10 to 18 year olds. There were separate organisations for boys and girls. The task of the boys section was to prepare the boys for military service. For girls, the organisation prepared them for motherhood.
After March 1939 every child above ten up to eighteen was forced to join. If they did not, parents could be held responsible (fines, arrest). Often there were loopholes, though, because somehow children cheated — on the Hitler Jugend (HJ) elders — or parents moved somewhere else with them or they just did not join and after repeated inquiries by HJ authorities which were not answered by parent or child the HJ gave up. Claimed “conscientious objector” status held no sway, was not legal and not accepted. Most kids at ten wanted to join anyway because of peer pressure.
Why did Hitler create the Hitler Youth?
He was persuaded by his cronies before 1933 (when he took power) that in order for the Party and the National Socialist movement to continue and survive, they needed recruits. Those had to be reared in good time and systematically.
WHY IS OBAMA CREATING OBAMA YOUTH?? THIS IS SCAREY!!!
bor...the biggest pig (without lipstick) in this country. He should be the vp running mate for mcAncient...they both have the same temperment and bor would teach him to to nail down a lie.....mcSame can't even do it according to script.
this woulda been the perfect time for obama to bring up andrea makris
You completely miss the Rovian tactics yet again. Typical progressive. Just because he made one little tiny point about Hannity, doesn't undo the rest of the segment. Anyone who watched that saw Obama be defensive and seem like a liar when asked about his supposed right wing friends.
You are living in your own heavily biased world if you think Obama did good. Anyone who doesn't know the truth about Obama/McCain came away thinking Obama has ties to terrorism and far left nutjobs.
That's why we lose every time. People like you extoll Obama for taking the high road and getting in some small jab most people didn't notice. They don't know what DKOS is. All they heard were the words "Chaos" & "Far left" and that Obama was supported by said groups.
KNOW WHO THE AUDIENCE IS BEFORE YOU MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE MESSAGE!!!
He could have said I'm not being lectured to on character by a man who sexually harrased his producer, lied about our troops at Malmady, and won't admit he's wrong when shown the proof, etc... Obama should have gone in with dates & quotes at his disposal to refute O'Reilly's charge that they haven't unfairly smeared and attacked him. KNOW YOUR ENEMY & OBAMA FAILED TO RECOGNIZE O'REILLY IS THE ENEMY!!!
Forget the rest, Obama was a complete tool for not at least having references to when they lied about and smeared him. To not be prepared with at least that much made him seem completely incompetent. Or why not info about who John McCain is friends with. Lobbyists working for foreign interests, his ties to Charles Keating, his ties to Vicky Isseman, his ties to Jerry Falwell & Fallwel's hateful Katrina comments.
Fox viewers didn't see a confident leader call for change we can believe in. They saw a weak, demure, & rattled man take it from O'Reilly.
Until you stop viewing the world through your progressively stained rose colored glasses, we are doomed to take it in the ass from them again. This interview was an abomination.
Obama is amazing. He thinks quick on his feet. He does not get rattled. Even when he is dealing with someone obnoxious as Bill O'Reilly he manages to keep an even temper. Keep up the good work 'Barack. If anyone can heal the divides among the American people that commentators like those on Fox News like to encourage it is Barack Obama. May the Force be with him.
54 dennis Says: I agree, Obama did do well in this interview, and O’Reilly did a nice job interviewing him too.
If Kerry had done the same thing he might’ve been the President right now.
Olbermann’s interview with Obama was pure milquetoast, and his ratings reflected it.
Even if McCain and Sarah America thought Olbermann would treat them with the same fawning he gave Obama, they’d still pass because of the low market share exposure they’d get. Just not worth taking her off the campaign trail at this point.
Lemme guess-troll for the GOP?
Totally correct, JC.
JC
While I don't share your "progressive" animosity, you points as well taken.
loofa boy doesnt have associations with dispicable figures?
ann coulter, michelle malkin, sean hannity, karl rove....everyone a hate monger
Jesse! @ 61:
I couldn't agree more: it is disgusting.
Imagine McCain going on Keith Olbermann's show and being constantly interrupted and sneered at like this.
Why the fuck did Obama go on that show?
NO ONE who watches it will vote for Obama and it only give ammo to the crazies for another 3 months of Rev Write type 'coverage'.
WTF was Obama thinking?
Kitty @ 27:
You are right there Kitty. Have you noticed that the Repub marching order is to interrupt as often as you can, particularly if an effective point is being made. I want to hear everything they have to say, but I wish the moderators would insist that others could finish their sentence. Watch how often they do it.
Nancy Pfot.. is doing it right now.
Curiosity go the better of me. I broke down anad watched.
Obama did very well.
God, O'Reilly is truly a miserable, execrable bastard.
JC
While I don’t share your “progressive” animosity, you points as well taken.
Or, in English...your points are well taken.
What a fucking moronic move this was...So goddamn disappointing...
Congratulations, Obama. You've finally become BillO's bitch.
I was against the idea at first but I think it made him seem even more Presidential to smile at such a pathetic would-be bully.
pinkobait @ 80:
That is a tough one to try to imagine. I don't think I've ev