Foggo Threatens To Spill Beans, Burn Agents
By Cernig Friday Sep 12, 2008 8:45am
Former CIA third in command and indicted Cunningham bribery scandal co-conspirator Kyle "Dusty" Foggo is threatening to out agents, secret programs and Bush administration skeletons in an attempt to ward of a possible jail sentence on 30 counts of fraud, conspiracy and money laundering.
Prosecutors say Foggo has threatened "to expose the cover of virtually every CIA employee with whom he interacted and to divulge to the world some of our country's most sensitive programs - even though this information has absolutely nothing to do with the charges he faces."
Prosecutors also allege his lawyers are seeking to introduce classified evidence to "portray Foggo as a hero engaged in actions necessary to protect the public from terrorist acts" to gain sympathy from jurors.
Foggo's efforts to disclose classified information are "a thinly disguised attempt to twist this straightforward case into a referendum on the global war on terror," wrote prosecutors Valerie Chu, Jason Forge and Phillip L.B. Halpern in a court motion filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Alexandria.
The government wants U.S. District Judge James Cacheris to hold a closed hearing on whether the information is admissible at trial and if it is relevant to Foggo's case.
Desperate much? It's amusing to see the Bush administration panic on this one - especially after all their own thinly disguised attempts to make every issue they could think of a "a referendum on the global war on terror". "Dusty" knows where the bodies are buried on everything from Negroponte's South American death squads to Iraq procurement corruption and if he starts singing who knows where it could end.
But what's truly revealing is the way Foggo only believes in national security up until the point where its his own neck on the line. How Republican of him.
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Hope he has top-flight, incorruptible bodyguards and a lot of them...say a battalion of them.....
He will be suicided...
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Doesn't his threat to expose so much ensure his imminent demise? I think it compares to David Kelly's suspicious death.
Ain't it the sad, sorry truth?
If he knows of illegal behavior, he should have exposed it before he was indicted.
If he's blowing the cover of covert and undercover agents that have nothing to do with his indictment, that makes him a fucking traitor.
So, when's his flight to G'itmo?
EarthAbides @ 2:
This.
Yeah, he's gonna commit "suicide" one month before Bush leaves office.
I don't usually support it, but this sounds like a justifiable case for a summary execution.
Wonder what his suicide note will say?
It will probably be written on stationary that has Obama's name on it.
National Security my ass!
the CIA should have been shattered into a million pieces after the Bay of Pigs.
In 45 years it has only ever gotten worse & more deserving of disbandment.
So Foggo wants to screw'em for giving him the double-cross?
I say let the clusterfuck begin.
Any predictions on how many bullets they'll claim he put in the back of his own head?
He and his legal team are placing themselves into a status that is beyond salvage. Sounds like they wish to die at the hands of his former employer. Extort the country to save his own guilty ass? that's a curious defense. The man's a fine specimen of a typical Republican. The jury needs to know of he and his legal team's threat to commit treason in order to blackmail the country into letting him escape the consequences of his crimes. He is not blowing the whistle in order to expose crimes.
Foggo, you slimey git: You did the crimes. Now it's time to take your medicine like a man.
The Bush Doctrine will preemptively cut this man's tongue out, just for kicks, before they kill him.
the fucking charege is treason!
he will get a bush pardon.
I believe that openly plotting to give up Government secrets that could harm the Country is punishable by death.
Now lets just see if the GOP has the proper innards.
Bush will probably pardon him and give him that Medal of Freedom or whatever the fuck that one is that he hands out so freely.
zencomix @ 13:
if he's part of the crime family, he gets a pardon.
Let me see if I have this straight. Our criminal government, composed of special criminals, is prosecuting one of their own special criminals who was moonlighting as a more ordinary criminal, of one sort or another.
He should have known better, it is bad form.
In dumbya's 'merika, loyalty lasts as long as the money/favors do.
Obviously, he hates America.
(slightly) OT - I love the smell of War Crimes Trial Conferences in the morning:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/warcrimesconference
♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 15:
Bob, you don't understand the US constitution. Unlike Britain we (at least so far) don't have an "official secrets" act and we do have something called freedom of speech. So its much harder to prosecute someone for just divulging classified information here than in other countries and I say thank God (or whatever) for that. There was some justification for keeping secrets when we were in a real war with a real foe (e.g. WWII) but now 99% of all so called state secrets are used to hide information from the US people not from our supposed enemies. The Valerie Plame incident was outrageous to me because it was an example of using information and power to get back at a political opponent but I'm never going to cry about CIA agents being outed. For every agent doing work that could be construed as being of legitimate benefit to our country such as spying on secret nuke programs there are 10 agents engaging in illegal immoral behavior such as the ones waging a covert war against Iran right now. I say expose 'em all!
i see dusty is wearing his
american flag lapel pin.
he must be a good american.
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I think most here have jumped onto a bandwagon of "U.S.A! U.S.A."ism that is a kin to prosecuting the street-level dealer who is offering you the name of his kingpin supplier (not that the "war on drugs" isn't as big of a CIA swindle as the "war on terror").
Bush might have pardoned him before this lashing out, but now he & Cheney would be happy to lead you in the chants of "execute the traitor!".
He isn't extorting the country he is extorting the CIA and the federal government, those 3 are never all on the same side.
Sure, they could 'disappear', 'suicide' or summarily execute him, as suggested in above comments. They could just declare him an unlawful enemy combatant and hold him incommunicado for that matter. Give him the Jose Padilla treatment. Let him become America's own Man In The Iron Mask.
But here's the thing. Sooner or later someone is going to draw a comparison between what Foggo is threatening to do and what Cheney and Scooter Libby actually did in the outing of Valerie Plame. The powers that be sure as hell don't want that comparison being made in any foreseeable future.
This guy will die in a bizarre lawn mower accident.
The Republican bunch are evil, they're criminal and they are tied to McCain and Palin. We can not let these people have control of the government for one day longer than we have to.
McCain and Palin are puppets.
but, the CIA has nothing to hide... why would the government lie to us?
EarthAbides @ 2:
You took the words out of my mouth, I agree he will meet with an unfortunate and mystereous ending. . . not that I mistrust Bushco or anything like that ;-)
Try him for treason.
getalife @ 29:
He will fade away...maybe Jon Stewart will get a hold of this!
Dusty is a Rethuglican isn't he.
EarthAbides @ 2:
Just what I was thinking.
I guess Nixon was wrong.
There isn't honor among thieves.
I forgot to back up my claim in a previous post about the evil that the CIA has done and is doing and why I think it would be a net gain for the world and for the US to expose every agent. For a good overview (even though the web site is very dated the info is good) see Mark Zepezauer's CIA's greatest hits page. For info on how the CIA is right now waging an illegal covert war on Iran see Seymour Hersh's New Yorker article or even better on Iran see Scott Ritter's recent interview on Democracy Now!
Oh the tangled web they weave when they practice to decive said the spider to the spy......let the good times roll
man, wouldn't it be great if he DID expose those Bush administration skeletons?... WHOA!... what am I sayin'???, Pelosi and Reid wouldn't do shit anyway, just lock up this douche bag.
Good thing for Dusty that he's a Repiglican. It's not treason when Repiglicans do it.
Let's call this what it is, high level treason. The sentence of which is to put the treasonous scum to death.
Fox News Alert @ 6:
Exactly my thoughts... aren't these guys just the slime of the earth?! Honestly, who'd want to be friends with people like this?! Or business colleagues or associates...? WTF?! How do these fucktards actually exist?
he must be a great american he has a lapel flag pin on.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 33:
very insightful! thanks for this gem...
This is treason, pure and simple. Lock him up on the charges that he has threatened to betray his counrty....
..... oh, wait. Treason is what Bush and Cheney and Libby et al did, wasn't it.....
Time&Again @ 38:
... to death BEFORE he spills the beans, right?
What will Bush do if Foggo reveals State secrets, a clear violation of the Alien and Sedition Act and the Espionage Act of 1917 both which mandate the death sentence of convicted traitors? In the age of mass media how will Bush silence Foggo? The fallout from this folly will be hair ball in the throat of FOX News.
Hard to believe a Bush confidant would turn Benedict Arnold.
Bill @ 42:
Throw him in prison with Ollie North. Oh wait!
LibertyWatch @ 28:
Au contraire - he will be preemptively pardoned, given the Medal of Freedom Award and promised a lucrative position in a future Republican administration. That's just how things work in the Rightwing neocon world.
He is openly acting in treachery, and if he gets what he deserves Valerie Plame still doesnt see justice.
If they tried and convicted him of treason it would only make me madder about the Plame outing.
♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 15:
Can you say the Bush administration purposely outing Noc/Cia agent Valerie Plame Wilson would should be "punishable by death". Instead we have one of the perpetrators of that National security crime strongly influencing our National election. Rove has to be held accountable for his many many crimes.
I hope Foggo flips before they kill him.
Plame. She got book money and movies. She also got to the President and Vice president. Why can't he?
What I admire most about Foggo is his conviction.
*insert rim shot here*
i heard someone tried to take a peek into the bush family closet to see if there were any skeletons, and an entire avalanche of skulls and bones came pouring out.
I have a feeling he's going ot have a "heart attack" soon
theirs is a 'circle jerk' of evil. doesn't matter where you look, one will be worst than the next.
Fox News Alert @ 6:
I'm with you on that. He can reveal all the illegal behavior of the Bush pResidency he wants. But outing agents is despicable.
Shorter Foggo: “In an effort to avoid accountability, I am more than willing to become a treasonous bastard.”
IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Give him conditional immunity, right fucking now, and get everything he knows into the record before Rove has time to hire a hitman. Prosecutors, DO YOUR JOBS.
I don't have a problem with granting immunity, as long as it's traded for something of value (i.e. the opposite of how the goddamn telecom immunity was given away for free).
CoIntelPro against the WAR of LIES @ 16:
And a substantial promotion.
Dusty” knows where the bodies are buried on everything from Negroponte’s South American death squads to Iraq procurement corruption and if he starts singing who knows where it could end.
Like so many other commenters above I believe it'll end with Dusty taking a dirt nap. It seems that there is, and has never been any honor among Repukelican thieves.
Let him sing. It's called treason. We can string him up and let him swing in the breeze. Then we should string up Rove as he did the same damned thing.....
Foggo will be suicided and no one will care any more than they did when the DC madam was suicided. Or what about Clifford Baxter and Ken Lay of Enron fame. What ever happened in the way of serious investigation of either of those deaths?
Foggo will have an accident in his prison cell, or on the way to the trial, or will go down in an airplane. Jeez, how many times do we have to see this particular play before we put an end to this kind of activity. Particularly when we know who is doing it, even if we don't know who is carrying it out.
you only get a pardon from the crime family if your crimes were sanctioned by the crime family. He's threatening to rat the crime family out. That's not being a Loyal Bushie!
I guess I need another cup of coffee. For a second I honestly thought that Foggo was threatening to burn some federal agents by throwing a pot of steaming beans at them.
If he's threatening to out several networks of CIA agents, then don't even go to trial. Throw him straight on the guillotine.
chris [not the troll] @ 56:
agree, although i don't think rove's the one who'd hire the hitman. someone else, probably someone's name we don't currently hear a lot in the news.
also, chris, i'm not totally convinced telecom immunity was given away for free. i've heard we'll reap the rewards after the election. could be total b.s., but who knows?
I can hear Bob Novak yelling, "HEY, that's my job!"
joe cantwell @ 22:
Made in China more than likely.
Um... I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about here but wouldn't his threats to expose classified info, if not approved by the CIA or higher authority, and not relevant to his case be illegal?
More important question then is IF authorized, who is doing the authorizing?
To clarify my previous post, when I said illegal, I'm talking about treason.
Looks lile someone is going to be flying a on a small plane in the very near future. Nice knowin' ya' pal.
i would like to hear what he has to say.......though i don't think it will get that far.
What's thirty felony counts when Dubya's body count is over a million?
Why the hell do you think Republicans fight so hard to run the government friends? Don't believe that Country First baloney!
Fux is currently scrambling to get him as a commentator with a clause in the contract stating: "I will not speak ill of other
criminalsRepublicans."I disagree with your premise, that Foggo is a typical Republican in that he believes in national security only until his own neck is on the line.
Foggo was certainly involved in more than he's being charged with in this indictment. He's a snake, all right. But he also knows other more poisonous snakes are being protected by higher-ups, who are themselves poisonous snakes. It's very much like Abu Ghraib...try to isolate a few "bad apples" and pretend the problems aren't endemic. They are, and I for one would love to see Foggo spill his guts in exchange for a light sentence.
oh-ho! this guy is a TRUE scumbag!
Those final two sentences of the article sum it up for me. I was reading about his threat, and all I could think was, "You asshole. If you knew about these skeletons in the closet, you should have said something *sooner*!"
Oh sure, nice and all that we'll get another rat deserting the sinking ship, but his timing really does prove that he's only in it for himself. Are we really supposed to trust this obviously untrustworthy man?
bob @ 8:
yup, yup...
In supermax, no one can hear you sing.
Foggo?
Fog you!
Shade Tail @ 76:
As a member of the US Intelligence Community (especially one with access to highly classified information), Foggo would have had to sign a non-disclosure statement for LIFE. So unless he is granted immunity by whomever, his ass will go to jail for a very, very long time for spilling the beans. As since we're at a time of war, I suppose one could argue that he'd be committing treason for disclosing classified info, which in turns mean he could, theoretically, get the death penalty. Foggo isn't that brave. This is a bluff to get the Feds' panties in a wad.
Suicide by two bullets to the back of the head.
Typical bedwetting, chickenshit, Reslug. criminal that got busted. BOO HOO!!
In other news. Former CIA third in command and indicted Cunningham bribery scandal co-conspirator Kyle “Dusty” Foggo was found dead next week.
You don't tell on a Bushie it's bad for your health .... See Kenneth Lay or the DC madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey.
So many Rethug role models, so little lead.
Out of the dregs of society came the Bushies crawling over the nation like an huge slimy black oil slick! Dusty Foggo - all American asshole.
He'll be Scooter Libby'ed... commonly known as Pardoned!!!
"See Kenneth Lay or the DC madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey".
uh, i REALLY don't think Ken Lay is dead. I think he's in Paraguay with a new face.
It's called graymail. I would think that revealing state secrets would help the terrorists. Why does Dusty hate America? Where is the outrage Mr. Drudge?
he's not the fogo they used to know!
Dusty, you must come foward no matter what, it is not criminal to expose criminals. It's high time for you to return to the fight we believed in.-CEO
The only reason his information is classified is not because of National Security, but because the information discloses the criminal activity carried on by the CIA under the Bush administration.
Nah, he'll be as safe as the crown jewels in the Tower of London and they're just going to spank his ass.
Shade Tail: If and when Foggo spills his guts, everything he says can be easily checked for facts. We don't have to trust him.
That's the advantage of a plea-bargain arrangement. Prosecutors can say, "Look buster, tell us the truth and you'll get a short prison term. Lie to us, and we'll throw away the key." Foggo is in a strong position, provided everything he says checks out.
This is hilarious! These convicts will do anything to get out of that rat hole. I don't blame him.
This flag-pin-wearing fraud would sell out all his colleagues and his country to save his scummy, corrupt ass.
Like someone else said, how Republican of him. Reminds me of someone else -- oh yeah, Scooter Libby.
Anything we can do to help Foggo spill the beans?
Sounds like a good new aphorism
It's no use farting over spilt beans.
Prostitutes, cigar-smoke-filled card parties, boozing, drugs, and votes-for-cash. These are the vital tools that should not be denied our valiant "war on terrier" fighters like Fogbottom here.
Truly a fine and patriotic specimen. Makes you wonder about all the others at or near the top of the heap.
Maybe if someone, anyone, managed to give a shit for the US Constitution, I'd have a little sympathy.
Mark Richards @ 97:
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Nice example of panic fire. He's lobbying really hard for a presidential pardon and maybe a future advisory position with Carlyle Group. Would like to see McCain say something about this. He IS the reformer, after all.
I wonder if he will say something about 9/11 :-)
Leadership @ 25:
Naw, I think it will be a fall in his bathtub. Any takers???
Fox News Alert @ 6: