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Bill Maher has new rules for political "soulmates", gay French ambassadors, Amy Winehouse and any American who is considering voting for a candidate who seeks healing from witch doctors.

And finally, new rule: You can’t be President if you practice a violent, Middle Eastern religion and worship a genocidal desert god. Which is why Sarah Palin can’t be President. Now all the churches that Sarah Palin has attended, and she’s been to almost as many churches as she has colleges, have one thing in common: a belief that the Bible is literally true. She’s not “Country First”, she’s “Bible First”. And not just the New Testament. That’s the happy half of the book: the baby in the manger, Jesus doing magic tricks, long romantic walks on the water that turn into fishing trips with the guys and a generally positive message. Jesus, after all, preached love and forgiveness, not shooting wolves from an airplane.

The problem is Gov. Avon Lady, she takes the Old Testament literally too, and in that one, God is an insecure, rage-filled hybrid of Bobby Knight and Suge Knight. He’s been alive forever and He has anger issues. He’s like John McCain if John McCain could fart hail. He’s pro-slavery, pro-polygamy and homophobic and he’ll kill you for masturbating. More people get stoned in the Old Testament than in my Jacuzzi. That’s what I have to tell you guys… If there was a video of Barack Obama standing in front of his congregation being healed by a black witch doctor, this election would be over.

But there is that video of Sarah Palin.

By the way, for those of you keep track, Jane congratulates Bill for his "Religulous" kicking "An American Carol"'s tail on opening weekend. Considering that AAC wouldn't preview the film for critics, I think it's safe to say it's about as funny as the 1/2 Hour Comedy Hour.

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Nice Bill, you just said that Jews and Muslims can't be President.

And while he's got a point that YHVH in the Old Testament is a bastard, I don't think any god in any culture's myth is all that much different. For instance, in pagan cultures, gods shagged like crazy, in Cherokee culture, their dark god burst out of his mamma's armpit and killed her, in Japanese culture, the storm god threw shit like a monkey on his sister, Amatesaru....

Face it folks, nonsense is in everyone's religion. I just happen to prefer my nonesense over the 20th Century "alternative" nonsenses.

He's saying people that put their religion over their country shouldn't be president.
And he's right.

He said followers of a genocidal desert god should not be president.

Well, gee, there go the Christians, the Muslims, the Jews, and the Zoroastrians.

He's just single-handedly disqualified half the human race.

Sure...I should just love ignorance in all its forms.

'Tis a bit ironic that you seem to be taking his statement literally when his main problem with the fanatically religious is that they seem to take the Bible literally.

He said followers of a genocidal desert god should not be president.

Indeed he did.

Well, gee, there go the Christians, the Muslims, the Jews, and the Zoroastrians.

Indeed they do.

He's just single-handedly disqualified half the human race.

Well, far more than half of the human race are already disqualified due to them not being born in the United States.

Sure...I should just love ignorance in all its forms.

Are you aware that this is coming from the guy behind the movie "Religulous"?

So--disqualifying violent Middle Eastern religions disqualifies half the human race from the U.S. Presidency, and you don't like this?

Sounds like you've never sat in a classroom, never worked with the public, never run a petition drive with petitioners who explain issues and how to sign a petition, then half the petitions STILL have to be thrown out because the signatory didn't understand how to sign or that s/he had to be registered to vote.

Sir or madam, far more than half the human race is unqualified to be President of the United States, including, almost certainly, the candidates now running.

Vote "None of the Above" on a write-in ballot and let the party bozos know that America deserves more informed, more intelligent, better leadership than they're serving up to us.

I'll come out and say it:

Fervent religious belief = irrational

Irrational people shouldn't be in positions of power. This isn't ignorant or bigoted; it's a statement I think we should all be able to agree on.

Some religious beliefs, such as Christianity or Islam, are especially dangerous and destructive in their fundamentalist strains (the versions that are undiluted with moderation and modernity). Their "end times" prophecies, their belief in a war with a devil and their salvation scheme are what make them incompatible with tolerance and peace.

I go into this in greater detail here:
http://godvsthebible.com/node/13#atrocities

So you didn't get the joke? Did you watch the video? It was a visual, as well as a verbal.

He was pointing out the hypocrisy of people spreading rumors about Obama being a Muslim, as if that should disqualify someone from being president.

And his point was that Palin's actual professed religious sensiblities are no better than what so many seem to fear.

If Bill's not saying it, I will.

Anyone who uses a spiritual philosophy as the primary or only validation for their social and political ethics or interactions (especially monotheisms that, by their very nature, teach that all diverging philosophies are at the very least, wrong, and at the most, objective evils to be targeted for social or physical abuse) when they have no evidence of a spirit to begin with is a crackpot and simply is not anyone in my top ten list of people I would want to be in charge of this or any country in the modern age.

Despite what you might think. It is not bigotry to hold all philosophies to the same level of criticism.

Face it folks, nonsense is in everyone's religion. I just happen to prefer my nonesense over the 20th Century "alternative" nonsenses.

General Pavel R... you seem to be very full of yourself and 100% correct. The universe laughs with you.

I just try to accept that i know so little and am grateful for those moments of when i have the courage and surrender to stand in complete awe and gratitude of the vast unknown. No myth in between me and creation, just the universe as is. Yes the universe is up to something but no myth can touch it - I can only experience it.

PS: I love Bill's ending line "Hasn't Jesus suffered enough?" - even God is pissed off - I just saw him driving down the street and the bumper sticker on his car said "Stop Creating Me in Your Own Image!"

LOL

and boozing it up, taking shamanic mind trips?

Everyone should really consider coming back to Paganism, which isnt really a religion anyways, and definately not organized. But the holidays rock! No Guilt, No Hell, No Tithing, No problem with Science.

Blessed Be

Dear General Pavel,

Did I miss something? What about shagging like crazy fits with all of that other bad behavior.

Bet

Bet An American Carol is as funny as a bad case of the clap.

Mean that conservatives have no problem passively listening to right-wing claptrap on radio or TV, but they won't actively seek it out in a public venue. Rush & Fox News have support a mile wide, but a centimeter deep.

Hey now!!! A bad case of the clap given to the right person can be pretty damn funny! Please do not try to lump social diseases in with the Republican party...it's not fair to the disease.

Well certainly yes do 'Beware Those Looking Forward To End Times'.

But of course by end times one might mean when the financial debacle comes completely undone.

Then there is nothing to look forward to at all.

Here 60 Minutes describes the 'Credit Default Swaps' those 'Toxic Assets' our beneficent Congress has just donated $700 Billion to buy - except the entire scheme may run 50-60 Trillion dollars.

If you thought $700 Billion is big, 50-60 Trillion, now that is really, really big.

End times indeed, I see some writing on the wall, in Chinese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y9A0C45KZI

Gahhh...

let the Yellow Peril be buried under the corpse of all the Chinese from the Opium Wars, plxokthnks.

I'm the very same Snowball that has been posting here for years.

I tried to register, to no avail. I'm told my user name and e-mail are already in use. There also doesn't seem to be any apparent way to contact C&L other than leaving a post.

I have received no password to log in.

Any way we can get this straightened out?

thank you,

Snowball

Is there a site monitor here? It appears that someone has stolen my user name. Is that correct?

thank you,

Snowball

I too am having difficulties logging on using my "old" username and/or email address. I'm guessing things are still a little glitched right now.

I requested help from the sitemonitors; hopefully will be worked out shortly.

Any tips from the "oldtimers" who have already been "verified"??

Here's a brief primer on John and Cindy's Keating 5 problems - "the gift that keeps on giving".

http://three-cents.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-...

After watching and rewatching the Palin "voodoo" video (Rev. Tombee) that was enough for me. She's one of those eejits who translate a book written centuries ago literally. Guess she believes in beastiality, incest, and all the rest then, too?? We watched her "speaking in tongues" during the Veep debate. Anyone still unconvinced that this woman is a certified looney bin?

End times y'all can believe in. You betcha, donchano. (wink)

I liked it though he seemed to go too far for most.

I mean this with all due respect to Maher but he seems to be the lefty that is closest to taking things too far.

Cheers to you. Bill Maher.

Evangelicals Applaud Palin Family’s Ability To ‘Be Fruitful and Multiply’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=2831

Bill Maher is simply clueless about religion and belief in so many ways.

But for now just take his ridiculous idea about the "old testament"... a book and a concept that plays no part in Jewish religious life, and is only slightly related to the Jewish "bible", a book that plays a large part in Jewish life.

In each religion (Judaism and Christianity) there are 2000 years of history interpreting and civilizing that unruly book to ensure that it does NOT always mean what it seems to mean. In Christianity that's called the New Testament... in Judaism that's called the Talmud and the Rabbinic tradition. Don't like those either? That's fine, but don't confuse any modern religion with the Old Testament, because even the Karite sect INTERPRET it in order to live it.

And fundamentalist Christians? The difference between them and other Christians is that they don't admit that they are interpreting either their new or old testaments.

And anger issues? Pot? meet Kettle. Maher is the angriest comic around, and that doesn't stop us from liking him. God is sometimes one angry SOB, but what of it? Anger is part of the human experience, and so if God is in our image of course he's one angry dude, and if we are in his image, then of course we know anger too... but either way the stupidity of God is our stupidity and the love of God is our love and the anger of God is our anger.

Is there really and truly a God Bill? It all depends on what you mean by really and truly, doesn't it?

I love it. Bill Maher has been on fire lately. And Anonymous who posted at 8:17, where in this piece does Maher talk about Jewish belief and the Old Testament? I guess I missed it. He's attacking those folks who think they are taking the Old Testament literally. And as someone born in the middle of the 20th Century, that kind of belief scares the crap out of me when it's wielded as a way to exercise power over the rest of us!!

Brilliant Bill. Thank you!!!

Did God write the Bible (Jewish or otherwise)?

Is it the inerrant word of God and is it to be read and understood literally?

If you answer anything other than "yes" to both questions, you pass the intelligence test.

It all depends on what you mean by "write", "inerrant", "read", "understood" and "literally."

Answer those questions and we'll know if you pass the intelligence test.

You obviously didn't get the joke, either. Lighten up. Geez.

That you think God is a Man. A human being. So then you think gee any Man can be god like. Like Bush or Palin or your pastor. You start believing in what man says instead of what you are supposed to believe in.

Oh come on, Mr. Site Monitor. I have come here for the last push, so the democrats can take the white house back. Gimmi the downloads back, please. I'll keep the chatter to a minimum. I pay 125 a month for Comcast...... Your site is about the only 1 I come too.

I'm not one who subscribes to the concept that the religious views of pols are off limits. On the contrary, I think it is imperative to know how they feel about afterlife and endtimes. I remember James Watt, sec. of Int. under Raygun, who thought conservation was not important because the endtimes were coming very soon. Hmmmm...reminds me of somebody.

Okay, look, I don't agree with BM's opinion on religion as I happen to be a Christian Democrat (what?? they exist?!), but I have to say that he makes a point about Obama and what would've happened had he had a video of being prayed over by a witch doctor. The reality is, most right-wing, conservative Christians only consider you a Christian when you agree with them 100% of the time on every issue known to man. It disgusts me that men like Pat Robertson are seen as "representative" of Christianity today, when he and I aren't even in the same BOOK, let alone on the same PAGE.

Right-wing nutjobs like Sarah Palin because she, too, is a right-wing nutjob. They like being prayed over by witch doctors and shooting wolves from a plane, all while simultaneously giving birth to 10.3 kids.

Apparently, it's what they think Jesus would do.

... for making me laugh on a tough day. You speak for many of us. Well done and very much appreciated.

when she cant even bother to pronounce the WORD correctly.

At the convention they had to spell "nuclear" phonetically on the teleprompter.
read "new-clear".

which explains why she gets it wrong ELEVEN TIMES at the debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBNriXiWr54.

see, even though i'm a practicing believer, i really admire maher for messing these idiots up. somebody's got to do it.

maher's one of our very best comedians. i'm not exaggerating when i say he's got more than a little voltaire in him.

i agree with him 99% of the time; the 1% i don't agree with is that there's no god.

Bill hit it on this one!

I've never heard Maher say there is no God, I've heard him say he doesn't know.
None of us knows!

Maher doesn't say god doesn't exist. He says he doesn't know. Technically, he could be agnostic.
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End times aren't so bad as long as you think cyclically and not linearly. In Hinduism, they speak of Yugas (no, they're not Eastern European cars). There is the Satya Yuga, Krita Yuga, Dwapara Yuga and Kali Yuga.

Yuga girl!!!!

The latter is a generally worsening of time. Kali Yuga however is not just the darkest period, but also the darkness before the dawn. One can liken it to the dove that returned to the ark with an olive branch in his beak.

Even if this were the end of time the test is how you fight, honorably, bravely and with humanity.

Even in Norse mythology, after Ragnarrok, Balder will return and bring forth a new race of the Gods of Aesir, and there will be a new cycle of life.

Like said of King Arthur:

"Hic jacet Arthurus, rex quondam, rexque futurus."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GOe5SUlPPY

(Sorry this might be a little incoherant, but I'm drunk again.)

I have faith but I am not religious. Does anyone believe it is necessary to fear eternal damnation to be a good citizen? There is just so much hokey ceremony associated with the world's religions.

Lord Gordon George Byron used to josh Percy Bysshe Shelley for claiming to be an atheists, but believing in spirits, but no heaven nor hell.

Are the trolls going to figure out how the new system works? It won't be as much fun.

Hindrocket's working out the kinks first.

We'll figure it out.

There are several things I agree with:

1)Sarah Palin is "Bible First" as an evangelical, Right Wing Nut. She implements all the bad things about a religion and takes it up a notch. What's scary about her view is that it is fatalistic and frightening. She's an empty shell that, if ordered, will take the entire country down in order to achieve the end her religion wanted. As a result, she is not only a danger to national security; but to our very livelihoods if people vote for McCain and his running mate.

People could see that she can take orders well--from her relentless battery on Mr. Obama's reputation to her "performance" during the V.P. debates.

The Republicans won't get rid of her because she is the perfect person to be manipulated. Her only flaw is that she's power-hungry and ruthless. To achieve what she wants, Sarah is mean enough to betray her own people--including a melanoma-ridden, 72-year-old man.

2)That the moment the McCain camp drag out Rev. Wright again, go for the "Witch Hunter". What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
It is time to fight back and to impress upon the public the need for the separation of Church and State. It would also behoove the Dems to tie Sarah Palin to making an American Taliban if she gets into the Oval Office.

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Formally and proudly known as "The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein"--until we can change our on-screen names.

Interesting that here in the DFW area, Relgulous is playing at two theatres, both art houses, while American Carol seems to be in full distribution.

I have to go now, I'm doing my yearly rereading of Dracula.

bill mahers is dumber then a dum dumb!

It's always fun when the truly inarticulate attempt to respond to the truly articulate.

Here's my advise to you tyree. Turn off the TV with the typewriter underneath it, go crack open a Bud Light, turn on the TV without the typewriter underneath it and let your buddies on FAUX News tell you what you should be thinking and spewing. You'll feel better and we'll be the better for you absence.

Bye bye y'all

sorry slim, did i step on your dick while you were eating bill mahers stick? mahers is so dumb hes got to ask a corporate news whore like bob woodward why the bush SURGE worked in iraq! and woodward teased ol bill with its a secret, and probably even a guy like you who thinks a computer monitors a tv knows bush is paying the iraq warlords to not kill our troops, but a gunieus like mahers dont know jack doodle squat!

well chicken little im impressed that while you never had anything to add to this thread but your knowledge of the tv monitor and the typewriter keys and your insults of me, heres a bit of info for you , i dont take advise from someone whos main job is cleaning up dog poop at a dog kennel, but if i was to do you a favor and leave how would you get educated on the job of a comedian, mahers makes the big bucks off intertaining dumb clucks like you that hang onto his every word like he really means what he says, mahers doesnt have a brain in his head , and like you hes just an insult comedian, guess thats why you admire him , any how if the price was right hed shill for the repigs instead of the dumbocrats, and his lack of knowledge on world events just boggles the mind !

How many times have you had to re-take third grade? Are you in the Guinness Book of Records?
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but then my daddy never paid my way to college either , say did you ever pay him back , or cant you afford to working at burgerking?

Where is the spellcheck?

It kicked in automatically for me when I typed cluelessness earlier -- which I had spelled correctly.
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It was considered impolite to talk about your religion at work... wish today's politicians would practice that.

Am I the only one that got a hideously ugly and distracting ad as big as BM next to the video link? I love this site, but if this is what it's going to become, I'm gonna love it less. I don't like ads that scream at me. Period.

We stopped watching television over 15 years ago because of the advertising. Now it's at the grocery store check-outs - it's in all waiting rooms - it's even in the corner of better restaurants. That's F**KED up. I shouldn't have to put up with it in every single corner of my life. Pretty soon they're going to hang them off the end or our noses and we'll have to walk around with them -- sort of like in "Wall-e"

It's disgusting. Not annoying - disgusting.
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You don't have to live with it. While I would never advocate - Gasp - destroying invasive ads, I think there are appropriate responses to it. Check this out:

http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=6

Go out and use your creativity and "destroy" these invasive ads. We deserve a world free of commercial noise.

I don't feel any remorse for doing it myself.

Sweet, that was one of his better new rules

Wrongo!
An American Carol 3,810,000
Religulous 3,500,000

In order to compare apples to apples, you must remember that An American Carol took in 3.8M on TWICE AS MANY SCREENS.

The per screen ratio, if you look at the link I provided, is $2200 per screen for AAC and $6900 per screen for Religulous. That's a solid ass kicking in the movie theaters.

But don't feel bad, they both got trounced by a talking Chihuahua film.

In my neighborhood - you can get your money back if you decide you don't like a movie and leave within the first half hour. My husband and I MIGHT be able to stomach AC for 10 minutes -- then we could leave and ask for our money back. Would they get credit for our attendance? I don't care - they don't get the money and management would know people were walking out of it in disgust.

I just might want to do that - have to think about it . . . .
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They can't help it... it has to do with all that demonic shit in their heads.

Let's be honest - we all know there is no such thing as Reich-wing comedy. Their cluelessness is beyond belief.

Saw the movie Bill. It kicked ass. Very funny. An amazing and important twist at the end. Just about blew me out of my chair.

Great job -- go see it. I saw it with friends. One of them is now "sponsoring" teens who want to see it. She's going to meet them at the theater and pay their way in.
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I just don't like Bill Maher. He never says anything new that I can tell, so whenever I listen to him I'm just thinking "uh huh, uh huh, hurry up..." And he just has this air of entitlement. I really couldn't stand him on Daily Show the other night.

Wrongo!
An American Carol 3,810,000
Religulous 3,500,000

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The entire Palin clan showed up to boost attendance, like buying your way onto to NYT Bestsellers list...

mahers is just a two bit comedian , no different then jay leno, the night he ranted about the 911 truthers , remember ? and he had hecklers with sighns and who shouted from the back row at him, well he ran after them and screamed he was going to kick thier ass! well guess what , it was a setup, thier was no advertisment of his 911 rant , and no one knew he was going to go off on 911 truthers , so why would any protesters be at that particular nights show? come on folks hes a joke!

No one is denying a candidate from practising their religion, but there has to be a return to seperation of church and state. Any candidate who openly believes in "end times" is no different than one who openly believes in sharia law . They are admitting that their religious beliefs could trump their political beliefs . One of the reasons young people are moving to Obama in droves is they are tired of a future their elders say will end in fire and brimstone . Just because the old have lived long and are ready for the second coming, why should the young have to die with them ?

Country First or Bible First. What Kind of American are You?

Country First or Bible First. What Kind of America did our Founding Fathers want?

Make that into bumber stickers and T-shirts. It's a great line.
Folks might see that spraypainted on some rockcuts along the Alaska Hwy.

YHVH = Yngwie Malmsteen.
But he's an asshole.

Powerful stuff- Have sent this to my favorite location in 'ahem' & G-d forbid, Europe! Should be disseminated quite nicely- thanks!!

" Jesus, after all, preached love and forgiveness,"

That may be the nicest thing Maher has ever said about Christianity.

Watch Pat's talks on religion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq96ElgrHQE&fe...

Watch this film and see if it doesn't remind you of someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4

"Grow up. Or die."

Sometimes Bill Maher is a dick.

He loves to denigrate religious people but he very seldom gives them credit for the incredible good they do. I don't see him setting up any charity to care for the less fortunate around us or to care for those in disadvantaged areas of the world. I guess what happens to those people is purely evolutionary. Only the strong survive. If they can't cut it, fuck 'em.

There are certainly nutjobs on the fringes of religion but there are plenty of atheist nutjobs as well. And I don't think despotism of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot speak well for a state based on the absence of faith in God. Frankly, even the repressive Islamic states have done better than those.

I think if BM maybe delved a bit deeper into some Biblical writings he might actually find a lot to like. He'd probably like the Prophets like Isaiah, who was a nudist (Isaiah 20:3) or Ezekiel, who said his nation was like a whore who craved a lover who was hung like a mule and came like a racehorse (seriously, it's Ezekiel 23:20). I very much doubt BM has ever read the Bible because his ignorance shows. He really has no concept of what it's about. But who has time for that? It's easier to criticize.

And BTW, since Barack Obama is a self-professed Christian, I suppose that makes him ineligible to be President, too. Right?

"He loves to denigrate religious people but he very seldom gives them credit for the incredible good they do. I don't see him setting up any charity to care for the less fortunate around us or to care for those in disadvantaged areas of the world."

How many of those charities require conversion (or the outward appearance thereof)? This is an honest question. World Vision is the only religious charity that I know for a fact does not.

"There are certainly nutjobs on the fringes of religion but there are plenty of atheist nutjobs as well. And I don't think despotism of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot speak well for a state based on the absence of faith in God. Frankly, even the repressive Islamic states have done better than those."

With Stalin and Mao, at least, belief in a god was replaced by a cult of personality, so I'm afraid that you're making a false argument. The focal points differed, but religion was present nonetheless.

i have a problem in the way maher attacks all religions

i also have a problem with his movie

in religulous, the only observant jew he talks to is a member of the neturei karta...a fringe group that has been excommunicated by all other jews, including the chasidic sect they come from (the satmar)

yes, there are fanatics in all religions, but the majority of religous people are good and caring and isnt that the whole point of being a human? why does it matter how one gets to that place?

and no, palin and her ilk do not take the old testament literally...they pick and choose what they want to take literally, and what they believe

if they took the old testament literally, they would keep the sabbath on saturday, have to follow kosher dietary laws, as well as a myriad of other laws

Religion does NOT have a monopoly on charity. So the argument that religious people deserve credit for being charitable simply doesn't follow. I, as an atheist, donate my blood, time, and money to help others. No god required.

And you have to have the logic that you are giving your donations, blood and time, for no other reason then to make THIS world a better place.

Not to earn a better place in the next work and not to please some invisible 5,000 year old parent figure.

Very cool flick. it was funny and yet Bill was never being mean, he tried as hard as he could to treat everyone's belief with (some) respect, however it's hard to take someone's belief in the invisible guy in the sky very seriously. I'm glad to be one of the many who helped make Religulous a hit!

Pretty funny. Although I wish Bill would concentrate his anger more toward religious fundamentalist types and not trash people simply because they have religious beliefs in general. You can have religious beliefs without being crazy. It is possible.

Maher did talk to those Vatican people and they seemed reasonable. And IMO Maher was being a bit rude to some of the other people in the movie but honestly, talking snakes, miracles, etc...it's hard to discuss that stuff seriously because it's so ridiculous. The way I see it: exposing bullshit to daylight makes it decompose faster!

Why make fun of anyone of their beliefs.

God

When you don't understand something or you make fun of it you are in fear of it .Bill makes fun of God and it's people like him is why we are where we are today . You can laugh at me for my belief in God ,it is better then makeing fun of me for not having faith in God . Before God was removed from everything we were better off,maybe it just made better people when they felt there was a higher power to answer to.

What has God been removed from?

Seriously, yours is a tired old claim by people who crave the feeling of victimization. The vast majority of Americans are Christian. There are a lot of us out here who don't like the way that fundamentalist "Christians" have tried to ram their opinion of who/what God is into the public debate over every issue that faces our country today.

God

Why do people (Bill) make fun of God ,he even made a movie about it . It is a very big topic for him. Is he saying i am dumb because i believe in God?

Look, no one can call you dumb for believing in your idea of what your god is. You can't prove she/he/it exists, we can't disprove. Those of us that do not believe in your idea of god, are getting very tired of your god being used to justify political decisions. Just go to church and leave it there and we'll be O.K. Stop placing your ideas from your prayer answers on the rest of us.

Yes.

Bill is a real Jerk.

Oh you can make fun of something that you know well of, otherwise you trip yourself up. Too many religious folk think if you just "understand" their religion you'll become a believer.

And actually some argue that humor is the way you accept something, by making it less threatening.

Me, I'm something of a nihilist, so you might say I'm laughing past the graveyard.

Religious zealotry has also put us where we are today; where culturual issues like homosexualty and other best the economic interests, and color the international relations. That's why we're in the economic mess we're in, and in wars that drain our economy.

...cultural issues like homosexuality and others...

Wish this movie was showing in my town, but I doubt it's even showing in my STATE.

It's only showing at two theatres in the Dallas area, both art-houses.

So even if the stats are true, that American Carol is beating it by about 3000 tickets, that's not saying much considering the latter is in wide release.

)O(

LOL looks like most of America thinks his movie sucks too.
BTW don't worry about American Carol most people will be too ashamed to admit they saw that crap fest.

How could "most of America" think Maher's movie sucks if most of America can't see it?

Fine most theater owners think its crap and that most people wouldn't pay to see it.