Nina Easton: John McCain Sank the Free Market Republican Ship Last Night
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Oct 08, 2008 6:00pm
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FORTUNE Magazine's Nina Easton, a typically reliable GOP apologist, didn't like what she heard last night from John McCain on the mortgage meltdown -- a 180 degree flip from previous statements, as Jon Perr documented -- and sure didn't hold back her bewilderment when she said this:
"We're witnessing tonight something quite profound and that was the sinking ship of free-market Republicans keel over, groan, and fall to the bottom of the sea. John McCain, without much notice, proposed a $300 billion dollar plan to nationalize home mortgages. [...] This is on top of the $700 billion dollars already passed by Congress. And this is before he went on to attack Barack Obama on obscene spending. and government control of health care. I thought it was an amazing moment."
UPDATE: John Amato:
The FOX News post debate set was filled with depression last night. Nobody epitomized it more than Nina. Check out her expressions as she delivers this scathing indictment of John McCain's new bail out. Fred Barnes tries to rescue McCain by saying that he didn't explain it very well, but she wouldn't have any of it.
Nina: 300 Billion dollars is what it is. His campaign fact sheet says that.
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This picture invokes a painful time in our history. I understand the historical significance but you should not have used it.
So much for being the President, eh John?
He Coulda Been the President. (Music video)
Anyone who doesn't admit it is either drinking to much or is totally brainwashed beyond repair.
all the rest of you are just discovering this, LAC.
We've been experiancing this in MI since the spring of '01.
Welcome aboard.
We told people to STAY OUT OF THE BUSHES before Bush even became front runner in 2000.
Bush Senior nearly wrecked America. Clinton save our freaking asses for 8 years, and Bush Jr. finished the job his father started after the USSC over ruled the American public and installed this Nation wrecker into the oval office.
This goes back to the Reagan era, when the business class decided we would become a service economy.
We don't make anything anymore. And with Reagan came the world wide wave of neo-liberalism.
By the time Bush the Lesser came to power, we'd mixed neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism for our now ruined economic and governmental institutions. Socialism for the rich; fascism for the poor; imperialism around the globe. We've been buying and selling debt like it were a tangible commodity in a rule-free market, and we're bogged down in war.
And we're surprised this system has collapsed? It's been building to this for decades. I'd say our chickens were coming home to roost, but that would mean I'm a racist, anti-American. ;)
We do still make a few things, but we sell it all overseas.
I remember reading about supply-side economics not long after Reagan was elected. It's surreal to think about it now, but the original goal of the supply-side tax plan was to end budget deficits and replace them with surpluses.
Remember the Laffer Curve? The idea was that you cut taxes radically, and the resulting increase in investment and demand will raise tax revenue by a factor far greater than the tax cut. This was the whole basis of Neoconservative economics.
It never worked. And now the US federal debt is 10 times higher than it was under Reagan. Not counting unfunded future liabilities (public pension obligations, entitlement program costs, etc), which run to $50 Trillion or more. Not counting the private debts of financial institutions and individuals, worth Trillions more. Not counting the cost of the Iraq War.
F*cking insane.
Yup.... Agreed.... BTW, what's her problem anyways??... her 401 magically become a 201 too???......I guess we'll all be Michiganers before its all over with............JD
drinking just enough. barkeep! Make mine a double. Ummm Just leave the bottle.
Trust me!
I've been homeless already and made it back. Your turn.
Almost drank myself homeless when the economy seemed much better. I'll pass.
the economy was not your problem. And drinking is not mine.
For either of your points?
offered unsolicited advice. My advice to You is to take a comment as intended. My point was I am NOT 'depressed,angry' NOR drinking 'to' (sic) much. I refuse such emotion when it's not needed. And niether should anyone.
you can't turn your back on problems like this.
Play it cavalierly, it will only take a bigger chunk out of your ass. But in this case it isn't your ass, it's our collective ass.
quiet now. Lay back. Have a cool compress. I know you think you know Me,but that's just.....being depressed and angry. Sleep now.
I'm the other side of the pillow, fella.
That's why i take no offense.
Get a room, guys.
:)
if you didn't read my original comment. i already know what's like to 'have nothing'. We were homeless for four long years. And You know what ? I'm still here. My family is together and healthy. You know why? Because we kept our'collective ass' together and knew that possessions weren't as important as staying together. believing in each other. And That's what We as a nation Can do. You can all fear the future or fuck fear and ride this out together. Your choice. I already know how to.
My point was that you've gotta keep your eyes on it. It's important. It's equally important to quit the anger over the things that happened. Can't get in a time machine and change it. Focus on the changing it now and in the future.
:D
I will admit I HAVE been depressed, discouraged, angry, for, oh, I'd say about 8 years. I don't know about you all, but lately I'm starting to feel positively giddy! Must be something in the air.
I heard that!
I haven't been angry, discouraged, or depressed (even though I often vent in comments). It's the ebb and flow of history. Money comes: money goes. Focus on things that really matter.
Our herd, the people on this planet, have not risen above the mentalily of herd animals, like the wildebeests roaming around, predators ready to dine. We are beasts. Accept it. So, I'm just not surprised by any of this.
Keep your powder dry, and have faith in yourself. No one else cares what happens to you. (My Dad always told me this.) Keep your wits about you and forget about the crowd/herd.
bomb bomb McSame. Woooosh EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Caboooom glug glug glug. wind over oil slick
My sister is the embarassment of the family.
She sounded almost, what’s the word, oh yeah, bitter.
Mr Kristol,
Well, ok then, he can't even articulate his own policy very well. That sure instills confidence at a time when people are panicking.
are getting everything they voted for in Bush and then some.
We will be stuck with the bill for their malfeasance for generations.
They are out there, right now, hammering McCain/Palin signs into their lawns with a boot or a rock stolen from their neighbor's yard, having clearly not received enough abuse over the last 8 years. These people are brainwashed morons, a dangerous combination if there ever was one. They are scoreboard watching dumbasses who think the final "score" in the only thing that matters, so long as their "team" is declared the winner.
But I suppose they WILL get what's coming to them, even if when it gets there they blame phantom liberals as they always do. Unfortunately, we will get equal shares of everything they get; the bi-product of having to share space with a flock of battery-less dildo-heads.
Ahhh, phooey. Here, have a cold one...
Start messuring the White House drapes Michelle your about to become first lady.
sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much
I vote Socialism. The country almost went socialist during the last depression. i say we go ahead and do it right away so we can get back on our feet as soon as possible.
How bout we just empower people to DO instead of dividing the nation any further with stupid labels and concepts that only further divide people?
Nothing personal
Social Democracy:good for what ails you.
the worst situation of any President in U.S. History.
This is a fact.
I don’t know…
Buchanan didn’t leave his successor in such great shape either.
Then you know how hard that is and would not wish it on anybody.
No I wouldn't. I'm just saying that not 'everyone' is living in fear. No time to panic. Tis all I'm saying.
If this doesn't prove once and for all that this man will sacrifice anything, even his own values and the future viability of his own party, to win this election then I don't know what will.
This isn't a steady hand, this is desperation.
Barring any last minute super duper surprises, the election is essentially over (knock on wood so as not to jinx anyone). Obama has the Big Mo, to use an old political term. Nothing in the 3 debates suggests that McCain can turn the tide.
it's not over till it's over. remember how shocking it was when bush was reelected in 2004, despite showing again and again how unfit he was? it could happen again.
think about this. maybe the people who answer internet polls aren't representative of the general population. it's not finished until the voters have cast their ballots.
register to vote. vote. get your friends to register, and get your friends to vote.
Didn't her baby take the morning train?
She? Naaaaaaaaaah!
LOL!!!!!!!!
To HELL with you GOP, NeoCon, Fascists SOBs. John McCain didn't kill the free market Republicans. Look the F$%K around! What you see is the result of your great free market experment that started with Ronald Reagan and has now ended (hopefully) with George W Bush. History is repeating it self, just insert Herbert Hoover for Bush. You have managed to dismantle enough of the reasonable safe guards that were instituted under FDR that would have prevented what has happed. Just go away now and maybe we can have another 50 or so years of prosparaty before you screw everything up all over again.
Hah! Well said.
Look, these guys always have to blame someone else. If it wasn't McCain, they'd find a way to blame "liberals". This is just a desperate, thrashing gambit amongst many meant to salvage what is left of the Republican brand, which sucked to begin with.
Fleet of selfish cowards, all of them.
Hell, they lose and you're going to hear all about how it was because McCain was too liberal (Bush too).
Those are the one's we can blame for this. When Reagan came into office he had a meeting with all the major editors and news directors and convinced them not to criticize his policies. They didn't, they haven't and they won't.
He will never get the blame for this but he set the wheels in motion. It took a while, but here it is.
Reagonville.
Yes yes yes... I can't cite chapter and verse at this point, but YES! It all started with Reagan... ALL this shit! For years I thought I was the only one who could see this.... Thankfully, I guess I was wrong on at least that much.... Now what to do about it... Hmmm well in four weeks I might be able to weigh in in a manner that gets somones attention other than other posters on blogs..... VOTE folks, no garuntees given the voting fiascos of the last two cycles, but it's our only current avenue to attempt to save ourselves and this nation.... We HAVE to get this right this time... no skippees... Our mantra should be 'no more republicans in our lifetimes!!! EVER!!!! JD
The length, breadth and width of the McCain meltdown is something we may never witness in our lifetimes again . Oh, we've seen lousy campaigns before but the perfect storm of bad judgement, bad advice , bad economy, bad press and an incredibly arrogant inability to stop lying makes you wonder if the God that the Republicans have usurped to manipulate the child-like masses has reared His head and timed His revenge to perfection . Let's hope He has some vengence left for the Bush crime family .
Check it out comrades!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-3C0v8eVfw
with voters focusing on the economy, and believing that Obama is the better choice to deal with the economy, that a Democratic landslide is becoming more of a real possibility. 23 of the 35 Senate seats up for grabs this year are Republican seats, and there is talk that the Dems could hit the magic 60-61 threshold that would give then a filli-buster proof majority.
In Ohio, Nevada, Colorado and Florida.
We ought to just make both Candidates donate the remainder of their funds to help pay off the national debt.
...and North Carolina is a toss-up.
Dress up like a 90 year old lady and shoot yourself in the chest, not fatally, only enough so they will forgive your Mortgage.
Is this what Reagan meant?
Oh, i get it!
You are calling us Communists!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
What a knee slapper! LOL
That's what Chavez is now calling Bush: "Comrade Bush"
Because of his "socialist" bailout of the banks.
It's not McCain's fault. With the amount of fog his campaign is throwing off, it must be hard to identify the other ships near you.
btw, John: The 'please calculate' thing is a really good way to keep the Wall Street bankers from spamming the site. Complex math is a killer.
My friends... so who gets part of the McCain 300 billion mortgate bailout? Is it only for the top 1% as usual? When even fox news is giving you a hard time, you know the titanic is going down, and going down quick.
Tony -
Funny & Smart politial T's to show your support at
http://www.showyourthougths.com
Can someone help me get a job with AIG? Seems you can fuck up all you want, and still get bailed out...er...rescued...over and over.
Wow...was I hearing correctly? PNACer Bill Kristol was *defending* this $300 billion plan???
Here's your Republican base voter:
Angry voter threatens Registrar, says he needs to 'keep the n***** out of office'
He should have fun at the Ouachita Correctional Center, once the inmates know what he's in for. Unless of course, they are all white racists, like him. Doubtful!!
Damn! The Neo-nut gallery fell all over themselves to try and qualify her assertions bu bu bu but Nina! She sunk their battleship.
and will now commence to eat their own. The Horror!
This is what they do to others... gobble them up... and now they're doing it to themselves. I absolutely love this!! The effin' republican ship can't sink fast enough for me!
the dow has dropped 2252 points in the last 30 days.
this is an average decrease of 75 points per day.
if the DOW continues dropping at this rate, it will reach zero in 4 months.
the dow has dropped 1592 points in the last 7 days.
this is an average decrease of 227.5 points per day a little over 1 month (approx. 40 business days).
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We're going to see some last minute insanity among the NeoCons. The GOP pundits have called for violence before, and they're going to do it again.
McCain and Palin are already starting to rile up their zombie hords. Those mindless idiots are going to start hurting people soon. It's inevitable.
This site has some amazing hidden camera footage of John McCain And Tom Brokaw getting ready backstage in Nashville before the October 7, 2008 Presidential debates.
http://hurple.blogspot.com/2008/10/footage.html
Will I go blind if I watch it?
So they tried to prepare? It accomplished nothing. People saw the lies and half truths for what they were.
McCain, just go to the old age home and scream at the kids playing on the lawn. It's all you've got left.
I'm sure your ex-wife is laughing at your stupidity.
Hardly. The GOP/McSwindle has gone populist (at least in message), against their own ideas, to keep power. He knew exactly what he was doing. Feed the herd. (See my comment at #___, above.)
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yeah, I get the same thing.
WTF?
I just loved how Kristol and the others tripped over themselves trying to justify the proposal!
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and the great Ronald Reagan!
Bloody Bill Kristol pointing out that others in the Republican leadership wanted to sink the The Free Market Republican Ship as well..Very interesting...
He said, "We'll build a bunch of nuclear power plants." Yeah okay. Grapes come in bunches, and they don't emit radiation.
http://www.ronnierayjenkins.com/topics/educat...
I never thought I'd see the day when FOX news is falling like a house of cards. How refreshing for a change. Even Hannity got it today. The tables are turning.
It's nice to see these faux news lackeys squirm and expose themselves as the hacks that they are............
Remember that "main street bailout" plan that John McCain trotted out during Tuesday night's debate? Did it sound a little too good to be true - a Republican advocating a government spending package to benefit middle class Americans? Well, if you thought you were living in an opposite universe, fear not. The McCain campaign just confirmed that the plan is really just another LENDER bailout package. The description of the plan on McCain's website was modified so that now, the lenders would get full face value on the mortgage notes -- rather than only market value, as the plan was initially described. McCain's campaign said it was a "simple mistake."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081009/pl_...
How stupid do the high-powered lobbyists that almost exclusively comprise McCain's campaign leadership think we are?
BWHAHAHHAHAA.... Mommy made the little boys scramble.
Obama and other liberals are destoying our country and our constitutional. liberals have been attacking our freedom of religion for a long time and now obama is making a mockery of constitional freedom of speech also by using bullying tactics against stations that are airing ads he doesn't like. Obama and liberals are a party of death and anti marriage and anti family. It is just so sick. Even if you chose to reject God and His salvation through Jesus Christ which i can't understand why you would because your just damning yourself to hell, but if you chose that you should at least respect our constitutional rights to worship and speech and to follow a conviction. If obama and others don't like it go to china or some place commusnist and don't try to make our country communist. many have fought died for our freedoms and obama is showing dis respect. Obama is not only pro abortion which is murder but is for the most extreme forms like partial birth murder and he has voted 4 time against a measure that assures equal medical coverage if a baby survives abortion. obama has always voted for higher taxes which anti family no matter what your income. he wrote in his book that should the political shift an ugly direction he would stand with the muslims. will he turn us over to islamic extremist? is that is agenda? either way he will compromise our national sercurity because he is so naive. he is anti american, he wont pledge the flag and him and his wife has said dis respectful things about our country on top of sitting under anto american man named wright. no true american ahould put up with this crap. people do anything to come to this country and this evil obama all he can is dis respect us and our freedoms.
Seek therapy, or at least seek information somewhere other than right-wing radio. Of course, I would imagine from your post that your minister is also feeding you his version of truth.
The truth you are forgetting is Jesus Christ leaning down into the dust and writing. Then each person who was there seeing his own sins in that dust. I believe He said, "Judge not, lest you be judged." For a person who is supposedly living His word, you are judgemental....and totally wrong. Not a great combination.
I'm thrilled to have your comment and this opportunity to show you as the total shill and troll whom you are.
Let's talk about "national security", shall we? And let's begin with the McCain Palin rallies; after all, that's the most recent arena where people's security has been shown to be "at risk", isn't it?
So what did these two morons do to protect the people at their rallies? They could give two craps less whether this erupted into a full blown riot or not. Clueless instigators of violence and domestic terrorism right on our evening news for the past 3 nights.
So let's have that "national security" discussion, shall we? But let's begin with the present.....McCain rallies have become totally dangerous and are now being dubbed as domestic terrorism rallies.
Wow, hard to believe, some deaf-toned trolls who believe in their own immortality are still around.
Respect?,,,RESPECT!!! You want to talk about showing your ilk respect??? After the last eight years??? After trying to shove YOUR particular brand of morality down my throat with the state as a hammer!!! FUCK YOU and your phony sanctimony! I'm not even going to address the rest of the pablum you are spewing... RESPECT MY ASS!!!! Blow THAT LINE out your own CD!!!! JD
To intentionally exploit and stir people emotions with hate-filled rhetoric when people are losing their jobs, houses, and life savings is absolutely disgusting.
For John McCain and Sarah Palin to get up there like "little Hitlers" and bait their audience into violence is tantamount to the tactics of Hitler's Third Reich.
For american to witness this in two people who are trying to make us feel safe and convince us that they will protect us, these flagrant attempts at "mass incitement" and intentional instigation of the absolute worst aspects of humanity is now only criminal but amoral, too.
McCain & Palin are clueless when it comes to comporting themselves as adults. "those two" are classless agitators to domestic terrorism by their own actions at their rallies.
American IS watching and what they are seeing is two clueless criminals up there acting like members of Adolph's third reich.
Seeing Barnes, Kristol and Hume scramble around for some kind of rationalization of McCain's proposal was a laugh riot. These misguided peabrains are funnier than the Three Stooges.
Hank Paulson outed McCain yesterday during his presser. The part of the McCain Resurgence plan which might work is already in the congressional package of authority.
The remainder of any McCain blather that is not simply has been shown to be a bogus plan which has no chance of working. The economists on "real" TV shot holes through it.
He's trying to hitch hike on the last passing chance of saving his tanking campaign and, just like his other transparent "stunts", this one is already backfiring in his face.
Perhaps he will suspend his campaign again? Or will he again purport to ride into congress on a stallion of change? Or will he sit there as a mute when he does? Or will he criticize Obama for working by phone only to turn around and hide out the entire weekend at his home in Maryland and have his shills pimp for his "being able to handle it by phone"??
What will it be next? I think I know precisely what it will be - McCain's latest series of TIA's which have become obvious to the american people are rising to the surface and will take whatever's left of this man down.
The metastasis to the brain of his invasive melanoma, stage 3B of a possible 4 (meaning imminent death) was again obvious to everyone but himself yesterday on the stump: "My fellow prisoners" was the clue.
you've nailed it!
Wow the "anchorpeople" at Fox are depressed? Shit, I've got to do everything I ever wanted to do or get done and fast!
I GOTTA GIVE MCCAIN CREDIT FOR TRYING...
he was for the bailout.... then called for BUSH to veto it ! ! !
he was against the bailout.... then tried to increase it ! ! !
if i was a RWB (Redneck Whiteguy Blueblood) in the GOP i'd be going NUCKIN FUTZ !!
now i gotta choose between 2 l'brals and 2 nutjob mavericks....
THE GOP IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKED ! ! !
even THEY don't know what to do....
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